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Discussion in 'Φ v.2 Who is a SOCIOPATH?' started by Chicodoodoo, Mar 23, 2016.

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  1. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Thanks, but you do most of the "work". Sociopaths always expose themselves. They can't help it. So for you, it's not really work. It's just being who your psychology leads you to be. I understand that.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with "selling" an idea, if that sales process does not involve deception for the purposes of manipulating the "buyer". When the selling of an idea is done honestly and truthfully, it's called education. When done with deception, it's called a con-game. An example of the con-game is your very argument here. You are implying that by using the "three Fs", I am attempting to deceive Rose for the purpose of manipulating her to do something that benefits me. But there are no deceptions coming from me, and the benefit would be for everyone. Allowing free and open discussion benefits me only because it benefits everyone. Well, maybe not the sociopaths, but it benefits the vast majority of people. Free speech serves the truth. Censorship undermines it. I argue for free speech, and you argue for censorship. Why is that? It's because of the difference in our respective psychologies.
     
  2. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Give the man a prize!

    "But I understand where it is coming from and why it is so pronounced".

    You're over analysis with under educated qualifications are a joke.

    "
    Shadowself / Brook / Star (always changing identities, a sociopathic ploy)"


    WTF?

    Brook is my legal name. Star was my "avatar" name because somebody already had taken Sirius ....but when I came back to forums after my son died...I became:

    Shadowself: I'm only a shadow of myself because part of me has died asshole!

    You're hardly qualified to analyze anybody considering you yourself display at least two distinct personality disorders that I can clearly identify.

    I say this with some authority as I grew up in a home surround by psychology.

    My mother had two masters degrees One in Social Work the other in Psychology.

    My father was a double board certified doctor. General Surgeon and Psychiatrist.


    [​IMG]

     
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  3. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Whoa....Wait a minute.

    Is Chico trying to manipulate Rose to his way of thinking?



    He damned near used the three "F's" of sales! Which I've actually seen him use once already here at the forum!

    Feel, felt & found

    https://philliphoffman.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/the-3-fs-for-selling-to-improve-your-results/

    Feel: I think you have experienced this already in a variety of ways here at Inphinet, and it is surprising that you would want to continue to support the kind of thinking that leads to these unsavory dynamics.

    felt:
    To a person like Stephen, owning a thread is a very desirable thing. He will most certainly use it and his power over it to promote his self-interests, which will probably be to gain greater power and control over the other forum members.

    Found: The concept of "owning" a thread has never made sense to me. Owning a thread seems equivalent to exercising power and control over it, which seems to include who can post there, what they can say, and if they can be censored. In this sense, I do not own any of the threads I have started at Inphinet. Anyone can post in those threads, they can say whatever they want, and they will not be censored, at least not by me.

    Go for the sale pitch: Would it make more sense to question those beliefs and consider changing them?

    Used verbatim here: http://inphinet.net/threads/was-hitler-a-sociopath.437/page-2#post-5181

    I understand how you feel....I've felt the same...but I found.....






    Nah! could it be? Slap my knee! I'm off to the Rodeo!
     
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  4. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems like a very negative opinion. You had my posts excised from "your" thread because you claimed I expressed "negative opinions" in this post. If you compare the contents of that post of mine with the post of yours that I just quoted, you might be able to judge a difference in the level and quality of any negative opinions. I find that stark contrast to be quite the hypocrisy coming from you. But I understand where it is coming from and why it is so pronounced.
     
  5. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    The concept of "owning" a thread has never made sense to me. Owning a thread seems equivalent to exercising power and control over it, which seems to include who can post there, what they can say, and if they can be censored. In this sense, I do not own any of the threads I have started at Inphinet. Anyone can post in those threads, they can say whatever they want, and they will not be censored, at least not by me.

    To a person like Stephen, owning a thread is a very desirable thing. He will most certainly use it and his power over it to promote his self-interests, which will probably be to gain greater power and control over the other forum members. I think you have experienced this already in a variety of ways here at Inphinet, and it is surprising that you would want to continue to support the kind of thinking that leads to these unsavory dynamics.

    Would it make more sense to question those beliefs and consider changing them?
     
  6. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Look....you are like glass dude....everyone sees right through you. You're here to expose me as one of your psychopath observations. So anything I write will be trolled by you to gain a reaction. I do hope I was reactionary enough for ya dude in my last post.
    Chico:
    "I admit, my heart ached for Shadowself when I read in her second post that her son had died. I unconsciously cut her a great deal of slack at that moment. That slack carried over for quite some time, which helped keep me blind to Shadowself's true nature in the months that followed. Even reading her post today about her dead son sucked me right in at first, but then it all clicked. I realized Shadowself was coldly manipulating me and everyone else reading her post".

    Yeah...right....what months that followed? it was like less than half a day for you to respond with a SICK response: http://inphinet.net/threads/pyramid-thread-sidebar-discussion.478/#post-5207

    And btw....I don't need your fucking empathy...I need my son back asshole! But that's not going to happen and as a result...what you see is what you get! While you're ...waaaa...waaa.....heart went out and wanted to cry dude. I fucking DID cry when I read your shitty fucking response here on this fucking useless thread extension for your sick purpose!

    Something I will NEVER EVER get over and your empathy is not fucking required. I want my son back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So I got some wanna be psych case who is most assuredly PPD... telling people I'm playing on empathy!



    You are sick dude. Get over it!

    Hows that for a psychotic reaction?

     
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  7. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Whoa...Chico....did you just pull a rabbit out of your hat or elsewhere?

    Who the fuck is Philip Gibbs I ask? Is he published I ask?

    Well...no...not really. I sought to look this guy up and found he is not published ANYWHERE beside his own site!

    In fact he started a site for people who can't get published and let me show you a fine example of an academic paper from his site that he established due to the fact that he could not get published!

    (I'm laughing my ass off currently, as this is Chico's ultimate source for example!)

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1302.0071v1.pdf

    So I continued to look in the Archeology section of his Vixra site.....ARE YOU FUCKING kidding me?

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1501.0171v1.pdf

    I am really laughing now Chico! Thanks man! I mean really thanks....the only source you have to discourage my thread is this guy and his unpublished forlorn writers Expand a rope pulling Pyramid build?

    fffuunnttvv

    But this one REALLY topped the cake!

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1012.0005v1.pdf

    WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude....Are you Sirius?



    But who is he I ask?

    http://physics.stackexchange.com/users/1341/philip-gibbs-inactive

    Here is the REAL paper in question from James Gates:
    http://arxiv.org/pdf/0806.0051v1.pdf

    And here is where you plucked your little dissertation from Mr Gibbs

    http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...or-real-code-found-in-superstring/83126#83126

    ~

    I'd say he's hit the big time brother! A-fucking-men!

    Here's a Gibb for you Chico because that was a fucking joke!




    As for Walter White? The link is a broken 404 dude and this is the only Walter White I know of!

    [​IMG]

    You've got to seriously be kidding me right?

    Your sources are as ridiculous as your intentions here and they are quite obvious in attempting to disturb this thread in any way you can to prove a point that nobody but you cares about dude. Get the fuck over yourself and leave me the fuck alone.
    Got it? I do hope so.... I have posts to do and little time to deal with a fucking troll!
     
  8. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Whoa...Chico....did you just pull a rabbit out of your hat or elsewhere?

    Who the fuck is Philip Gibbs I ask? Is he published I ask?

    Well...no...not really. I sought to look this guy up and found he is not published ANYWHERE beside his own site!

    In fact he started a site for people who can't get published and let me show you a fine example of an academic paper from his site that he established due to the fact that he could not get published!

    (I'm laughing my ass off currently, as this is Chico's ultimate source for example!)

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1302.0071v1.pdf

    So I continued to look in the Archeology section of his Vixra site.....ARE YOU FUCKING kidding me?

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1501.0171v1.pdf

    I am really laughing now Chico! Thanks man! I mean really thanks....the only source you have to discourage my thread is this guy and his unpublished forlorn writers Expand a rope pulling Pyramid build?

    fffuunnttvv

    But this one REALLY topped the cake!

    http://vixra.org/pdf/1012.0005v1.pdf

    WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude....Are you Sirius?



    But who is he I ask?

    http://physics.stackexchange.com/users/1341/philip-gibbs-inactive

    Here is the REAL paper in question from James Gates:
    http://arxiv.org/pdf/0806.0051v1.pdf

    And here is where you plucked your little dissertation from Mr Gibbs

    http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...or-real-code-found-in-superstring/83126#83126

    ~

    I'd say he's hit the big time brother! A-fucking-men!

    Here's a Gibb for you Chico because that was a fucking joke!




    As for Walter White? The link is a broken 404 dude and this is the only Walter White I know of!

    [​IMG]

    You've got to seriously be kidding me right?

    Your sources are as ridiculous as your intentions here and they are quite obvious in attempting to disturb this thread in any way you can to prove a point that nobody but you cares about dude. Get the fuck over yourself and leave me the fuck alone.
    Got it? I do hope so.... I have posts to do and little time to deal with a fucking troll!
     
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  9. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Brook has the ability to remove unwanted posts from her publication.

    Rather than have your last post deleted, I have moved it here.

    Could we please designate this area for discussion of Brook's material?
     
  10. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I have always stated that anyone here may self moderate their own threads, Chico.

    A thread here may be for the purpose of discussion and opinions, or be a published article, short story, etc not open for discussion and opinions.

    Brook may determine what is acceptable in her own thread.
     
  11. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Shadowself / Brook seems to have acquired an interesting level of power and control here in relatively short order. She can evidently determine if my posts, or anyone else's, express negative opinions. But are negative opinions forbidden here? Isn't any disagreement a negative opinion? She can also control where my posts go, and presumably where anyone else's posts go. Do we all have that same power? Should any forum member have that power?

    Could it be that Shadowself is deceiving and manipulating the forum administrator to act in her (Shadowself's) own self-interest?

    There is always something wrong when one party cannot tolerate another party's "negative" opinion.
     
  12. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    At 3:30 in the above video ("Theoretical Physicist Finds Computer Code in String Theory"), James Gates says, "Computer code -- strings of bits of ones and zeroes. It's a special kind of computer code that was invented by a scientist named Claude Shannon in the 1940s."

    The expressed idea of finding "computer code" is a very problematic exercise in communications (or information). When you know a hammer, many things tend to look like a nail. And when you know the electronic computers we have today, many things tend to look like a string of ones and zeroes. Strings of ones and zeros are not necessarily a code, and any code is not necessarily a useful set of instructions for a computer, and computers themselves can be very different to the point of being completely incompatible. While information can be encoded in binary (base 2), it can also be encoded in many other numbering systems, like decimal (base 10) and hexadecimal (base 16). You could even say that the information flow occurring right now between me and you is essentially a base 27 code utilizing the 26 letters of the alphabet and the blank space (ignoring numbers, punctuation, and capitalization for the moment, which can be represented as words or ignored). If our primitive understanding of genetics is somewhat correct, you could also say that all life on Earth comes from a base 4 encoding determined by the four DNA molecules adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine.

    Declaring that there is "computer code" behind string theory is like saying there is information behind any theory. You are saying very little in a spectacular fashion. Having Neil deGrasse Tyson grandstanding on this one is appropriate since he is the designated high priest of public science, a gatekeeper to control the public mind, just as his predecessor Carl Sagan did. It's a form of controlled opposition as well as a limited hangout. The implication is that computer code requires a coder. This is the same flawed argument the creationists used by claiming DNA carries information and must therefore require a programmer, i.e. a god. A god, of course, gives legitimacy to the positions held by the priests, which is ultimately a self-serving agenda by the priests who claim to have made the "computer code" discovery.

    It appears that Claude Shannon helped move both binary code and Boolean logic into switched arrays (computers), which is the "special kind" of computer code James Gates is referring to in the quote above. Again this is saying very little in spectacular fashion, apparently in an attempt to add mystery and legitimacy to the discovery of the "computer code" behind the equations of string theory. If string theory is such a good model of reality, why must the priests perform all these disingenuous tricks to generate awe in the audience? In other words, the awe seems orchestrated to me, and not at all merited. That suggests a con-game is occurring.

    As commenter "Walter White" wrote, "Sounds like a bit of good ol bullshit to me."

    At the other end of the comment spectrum is this:

    Philip Gibbs calls it "pure speculation" instead of BS. So there are reasons to suggest that the "computer code" claim is incorrect. I certainly don't believe it.
     
  13. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Brook has requested that your posts expressing negative opinions of her material or accusations of fraud be limited to this sidebar, Chico.
    Please post further comments you may have here and allow her to proceed in peace with the flow of her information.
     
  14. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    While I won't dismiss the information in this video outright, I will certainly question it. It is highly suspicious, resembling propaganda. I worked as an independent computer programmer for several decades, so Laird Scranton doesn't wow me at all. For example, at 23:50 in the video, Laird says, "You have three very precise representations of string theory diagrams used to write the name of Neith and how she forms matter. It's pretty much a no-brainer that we have a connection here."

    It's pretty much a no-brainer that Laird is very undiscerning about establishing connections between scratch marks based on visual resemblance, and then connecting the ideas those scratch marks supposedly represent based on that same criteria. That is so weak, it is almost fraudulent. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it is fraudulent.

    At 45:55, we take the potential fraud to an even higher level when Laird Scranton claims "You can actually recover higher mathematics from the symbol." John West chimes right in with "That's right. That's the amazing thing." Oh really... So I can draw a little loop thing like the Christian fish symbol standing on its tail and from that the mathematics of string theory come rushing out. I don't think so...

    Speaking of pyramids... Oh wait, we haven't got there yet. Shadowself's measured posts feel like the preparation for an info-mercial or a magic trick (illusion) or a con. But that's OK, because I like to observe the techniques being used here.
     
  15. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Quoting from the video "Strange Computer Code Discovered Concealed In Superstring Equations!"

    "I can give you technical references that virtually nobody in the world can understand." @ 5:42

    "It's all technical gobbledygook." @ 6:22

    You know how con-artists will hide the truth in plain sight?
     
  16. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Welcome back, Zook. Long time, no see.

    Awww, that is so sweet of you, Zook. Unless, of course, you are being a deceptive sociopath.

    "Advance the truths"?! Hmmm, yes, I think you are being a deceptive sociopath after all.

    But you didn't for quite some time, only starting up again just recently.

    You've been trying to do that at United People for years. And you have yet to succeed there. In fact, all you did was sully your "good name" until it was basically interchangeable with "mud".

    You made all those bogus arguments over at United People and got nowhere with them. The "historical record" is mostly propaganda. You have already conceded that point. And yet you rely on that same bogus "historical record" to argue your status quo nonsense. You are such a hypocrite, Zook, like all sociopaths tend to be.

    I agree that is the basis of your latest attempt to restore your "good name". I even said as much in one of my explanations of why you followed me here (in this post). You already started several threads at United People for the very purpose of restoring your "good name" (like this one or that one). Why don't you just point people to those threads where you make your same old tired arguments? Could it be that the strength of your arguments depends on your sociopathic talents for manipulating your audience, and not on the actual facts of the matter? After all, the audience is the only thing that's changed in your performance.

    No, I'm sorry, but that too is wrong. That's how a sociopath like you would see things. However, it's not at all about provoking you. I realize your psychological condition makes it nearly impossible for you to "get it", but ... ... it's not about you! Spreading the message about sociopathy and the damage it causes humanity requires me to name names, as I stated in my very first post at Inphinet. There's simply no use in trying to protect the guilty, because time is running out, as I mentioned in the latest post I wrote this morning.

    Accusing your opponent of your own malfeasance again, Zook? Like I often say, sociopaths can't help but expose themselves, over and over again, if only you know what to look for. And you, Mr. Zook, do not disappoint.

    You have a long-standing pattern of reacting, so I doubt your claim. Your hypocrisy is highlighted even more by claiming my assertions are baseless. If my assertions were baseless, you wouldn't bother to react, and I wouldn't find myself welcoming you back to this forum.
     
  17. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Chico makes up "facts" as he goes along. That's okay by him because it costs nothing to be a fifth column troll, and he knows who and what he is.

    FTR, I stopped posting at this forum because Rose had intimated that the Hitler topic was a bit too traumatic for her. Fair enough. I came here to advance the truths, not injure sensitivities. Indeed, I could still continue the Hitler discussion back at Chico's forum as I had been doing; so this forum had stopped being relevant for my interests. But even at United Chico's, I only post occasionally because I'm basically tired of banging my head against the wall trying to inform the masses (be as they may) in these sundry alternative forums.

    Factcheck: the main reason I arrived at Rose's forum was to defend myself against Chico's attack on my good name in that sociopathy thread he initiated. He had called me a sociopath on United People many times over. No big deal. I was already there to defend myself. So when he attacked me here on Rose's forum, well, that prompted me to come here (on Rose's open invitation) to continue that defense and to bust his sociopath-detector wide open. The easiest way to bust that detector, of course, was not to prove my empathy. Proving one's own virtues to others on the internet is next to impossible, not to mention self-referential. Fortunately, Chico gave me a sledge hammer when he claimed that Hitler was not a sociopath.

    The evidence of Hitler's sociopathy is everywhere and in volume ... and independent of any caricature of evil that mainstream media applied to Hitler. The evidence is in the historical record of Hitler's own decisions and theatrics. For instance, no empath would ever intern a whole peoples in concentration camps for the crimes of a minority ... that, Hitler did. And no genuine empath would ever cosign such agreements as the Ha'avara Agreement which essentially called for the forced okkupation of another peoples' lands (Palestine); indeed, if Hitler truly believed that Jews were a virus that infected Germany, then what moral right did he have to infect Palestine with the same virus? The fact that Hitler cosigned the Ha'Avara Agreement that would infect the indigenous peoples of Palestine, is documented proof of his latent sociopathy. Then there was the decision to send his own soldiers into the Russian winter to die in quest of Lebensraum. To wit, Hitler's personal ambitions of becoming a modern Caesar - which the Zionists funded in the rise of the Third Reich as per Norman Dodd's exposee of CEF minutes from 1909 (which points to the manufacturing of war in Europe) - far exceeded any concern for the plight of his own ill-equipped and ill-prepared soldiers when he ordered them to march deep into the coldness behind the Eastern Front. Would a leader with purported empathy take such a fatal decision especially when warned against it by his own general staff?

    Calling me a sociopath is proof enough of his incompetence as regards the topic of sociopathy, at least, for me ... but arguing that Hitler was not a sociopath, is proof beyond any shadow of doubt that Chico is pulling fluffy white rabbits out of his hat when he claims to know who and what sociopaths are.

    Indeed, sociopaths are essentially the repackaging of an old phenomenon and names known to writers great and small from time immemorial called "bad seeds", "dark souls", black sheep" ... etc. This repackaging has been done for modern certification by the Zionist-Occupied Education (ZOE) system as it seeks to control and subvert the minds of the sheeple ... and subsequent commercial application, as Zionist-Occupied Medicine (ZOM) seeks to profit by providing synthetic elixirs to combat the sundry psychological illnesses (and psychiatric diseases) they had invented/coined beyond the baseline natural illnesses and diseases found in man.

    Getting back to Chico, he always spins it as me following Chico around to discredit him. Yes, I plead guilty to having discredited Chico (to be accurate, he's discredited himself). But it is Chico who drags my name around from thread to thread, from forum to forum, e.g. in order to provoke a response from me. The archives on all the forums hold it. Chico acts. Zook reacts. And that aligns with the purpose of a fifth column troll, namely, to proactively irritate and obstruct truthseeking efforts. Perhaps I react more times than is wise; I am working on reacting less. My occasional periods of silence and absence are merely my efforts at trying to react less and less to Chico's provocations.


    I am not going to react further to the above baseless assertions ... other than to certify them as baseless assertions. smmile

    Pax
     
  18. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I figured Brook was invited just like me. I realize it was you reaching out. I have already noted that you are a very empathetic person, definitely a non-sociopath, which is why you are especially vulnerable to the deceptions and manipulations of sociopaths. You want to make friends. You will tend not to notice the "exaggerated efforts" sociopaths will make to befriend you, unless you are specifically looking for them. Exaggerated is not the best word for it, because they are subtly exaggerated, which seems like an oxymoron, I know. I noticed only a couple of them, while many others I missed at the time, thinking they were just normal friendliness. When I went back and reviewed them with an eye for sociopathy, then they stood out. So even my default reaction is to accept them as normal. My point is that sociopaths do many of the same things normal people do, but for very different reasons. They are chameleons, imitating the behaviors of normal people, so it is hard to notice them and spot their faux pas ("false steps" or slip ups).

     
  19. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I think this sidebar may have facilitated the provision of needed background information and a clearing of the air.

    I am very happy Brook will soon be continuing on with her thread. smmile
     
  20. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I should warn you that I am not susceptible to oversimplification ("All he ever wanted", "end of story", "very simple") or binary thinking (it's either A or B). I've had a thorough education in this method of deception and manipulation from UncleZook in the United People forum.

    No one has stopped you from posting about pyramids, time, measurement, or any other subject. You stopped on your own while blaming me for the stoppage. In contrast, you tried to stop me from posting about sociopathy, which I believe has relevance and significance with respect to your posts. You have, in essence, accused your opponent (me) of your own malfeasance (controlling what others post). This type of hypocrisy is classic sociopathic behavior.
     
  21. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    No, Zook did not become offended. If you recall, I mentioned several times in my posts that Zook followed me here solely for the purpose of discrediting me in front of a new and hopefully more receptive audience. If he could show that my understanding of sociopathy was bogus, then he could claim that my assessment of him being a sociopath was erroneous. This wasn't working for him, so he left. This is what sociopaths do -- when the con-game stops working because of exposure, the con-artist packs his bag and quietly slips out of town. Witness Shezbeth.

    However, Zook still intends to find a way to defeat Chico that will satisfy his ego. United People is a more suitable place for that in Zook's mind, since there is almost no audience, so Zook can experiment with new strategies without exposing his sociopathic nature to a wider audience.

    There is also the slight possibility that Zook is a paid troll, a possibility that I cannot dismiss. I believe it is his sociopathic nature that primarily drives his behavior, but that does not preclude earning a few dollars doing something you like.
     
  22. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Okay then...Are we done yet? May I continue my thread and be given the benefit of the doubt?

    I mean really. I could care less about Stephen. He has his own demons to wrestle with.

    To the point; All he ever wanted with this was to make the alternative community look like a bunch of non productive fools. Even if he had to manipulate the game to show that. Via squashing any project that looked like it might succeed. Savvy?

    End of story. I moved on a LONG TIME AGO as Rose has attempted to show you Chico. You can choose to give me the benefit of the doubt or see what you want. Very simple.

    Now...people of the alternative community have various areas of interest. Mine happens to revolve around time as you will soon see. I could even say I'm obsessed with it! It's somewhat personal for me and I'd like to share what I have found which I think might be of interest to some of the other alternative community members of similar interest. So if the vetting process is done I'd really like to continue.

    As for the pyramid thingy....that is but a spec in an ocean of information I'm about to share which I spent several years before and after my relation to him or the 18. I simply found a connection to some of the given information which he may have completely made up! Or not....who knows with that guy! I give it the smallest portion of the brunt of the information I'm about to share and would really like to continue if this is now over eh?

    What do you think? Can we move on now?
     
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  23. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Oh, I realize if forgot to mention in my response to you, Chico...

    As I recall, the first topic of Part Two of "Conversation with Brook and Rose" will begin with a discussion of our experiences at many of the other forums . I have not yet had an opportunity to process the second podcast.
     
  24. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I realized last evening that I left Modwiz out of the list of original 18.

    Constance, Whitehaze, and Lord Sidious were never members here. The only former Original 18 members who have been here are: Stephen, Rhiannon, Dale, Mark, Phil, Jamie, Danielle, Xavier Hawk. From the 2nd 18: Monkeyman , Yaksuit, Shadowself (Brook), JJL, and Core were/are members. But, of the 2nd 18 the only member who has participated more than a couple of times is Shadowself after she recently joined due to Mark's and my invitation. Yaksuit did help me with with live radio programming before Stephen and Rhiannon left. Of the original 18, Danielle and Dale (George Ohwell) left with Stephen an Rhi. Of the second 18. Monkeyman (Billly), Yaksuit, and Core left with them, so far, never to return. I may have forgotten someone again. If so, I will eventually remember.

    JJL (formerly Nigella here ) was in the 2nd 18 and she helped me develop this site. It was just the two of us. If not for her, I would have had absolutely no support and there would be no InPHInet. We were posting at Obskure priorly. and decided to strike out on our own. But, when Stephen and Rhi arrived, JJL immediately left and has not returned. I believe that is a long story. I am still in communication with JJL She is another woman harmed by her dealings with Stephen and Rhiannon. I did not realize she would immediately be run off behind the scenes here, as happened. I am still not aware of all the details.

    So, as it stands now. Brook, who was anti-Stephen most of the time we have known each other, is the only former 18 posting here now. It is my hope InPHInet is now ours to build and make something out of if we choose to. I realize my focus is again placed exactly at the place where I was attempting to remove it, but perhaps more discussion is necessary to clear the air.
     
  25. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Well, I admit I find that fascinating. I have had several conversations with a number of those people in the past, like Constance, Whitehaze, and Lord Sidius. Others I have conversed with via posts. Some I remember from their unsavory attacks at Atticus1. Given the surprising number of them that are members of this forum under different names, I almost feel like I've stepped back into the snake pit!

    Interestingly, almost no one posts here outside of you and me, and recently Shadowself. Shadowself was very quiet during the Shezbeth incident, and so was almost everyone else. And now Shadowself has been very quick to try to shut me down in the new Pyramid thread so that any talk of sociopathy there is taboo. It is all very high strangeness to me, almost a carry-over from the bizarre nature of Atticus1 under Stephen's domination that I experienced. But then, truth be told, every forum I have participated in has been a deception (seven so far, not including Inphinet). Each time, I was fooled in the beginning thinking I was dealing with enlightened people, more knowledgeable and evolved than me. That was even the case in my own forum. So I am not making that assumption here. It gives me a different perspective, to say the least.
     
  26. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Yes. Stephen told me he would come back for me if I wanted him to after my first voting out of the original 18.

    The original 18 consisted of NinjaPhil who was the creator of the Atticus1 website, Jamie (Beans here) who met NinjaPhil in the 18 and they sometime later married and he moved to the US, Danielle (Real Intent at Avalon) who quit with Phil and Jamie after an issue with Louisa/Isostool at Nexus and Rhiannon, Danielle (still one of Stephen's current minions ,if I am not mistaken) who also quit during the Isostool/Rhi rift, Silentghost/Lightestson/Mark who is now (afrer many twists and turns) is my friend and administrator here, Hawk (Xavier Hawk here who started our Confessions thread, became angry with Stephen and Rhi and deleted all his content here never to return), IceCold who I am sure you are familiat with (David), Constance from Australia, James Horak of Avalon thread fame for his EMV' information, Torz (who was in the original Avalon video interview with James Horak and was later linked romatically with Whitehaze, if I understood "cosmic sex" correctly), Shuni (Horak's minion and perhaps webmaster ) Jorr/Avalon from Sweden (who sadly passed away) and Maria/Avalon and Jorr's spouse, both were Icecolds friends. Jorr and Maria were always very kind to me and sided with me in the first "Rhi" incident of which I have a recording. Silverfox (Paula, the woman I spoke of her who home schooled her 12 children and recently wrote a book. She participated rarely in 18 meetings, but thought she was Stephen's most important "canary"), Lord Sidous (for a very short time), and Whitehaze (who was delegated the task of initially interviewing several of us including me - cottage.rose at Avalon). At the top, were Dale (George Owell here) Stephen and his at that time unrevealed former "associate" of Bill Ryan and others, significant other to Atticus, Rhiannon (Ms. Lovely Vicious III here).

    Shortly after you came to Atticus1 after I think I posted something at Nexus to you, all that remained in 18 were David, , WangoRiley, (current proprietress of Obskure built from the remains of Agora), Yaksuit, Edina, JJL,Core, Yaksuit, Billy (monkeyman here),Dale (ohwell here), Stephen, Rhiannon, and probably a couple more who said little I do not recall now. Wait, Amenjo and Val. Maybe Danielle and Paula were still there too. 9eagle9/Warponies was never 18, but was a tight associate with Icecold in my recollection.

    Later, shortly after Star arrived in the 2nd 18. I was brought back in. Stephen invited me back as he had promised. He interviewed me with Bashi as a witness. Bashi put my name forward at the next meeting as 18 I was voted back. So, Brook was only slightly ahead in chronological order in the 2nd 18 group. We participated together and she encouraged and aided my participation at that time.
     
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  27. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    My, but you are accommodating!

    Being accommodating is typically a very good thing among normal people, but when dealing with sociopaths, it is a severe vulnerability! Stephen used your accommodating nature to readily manipulate you to serve his interests. Be aware of that.

    That's one of the insidious features of sociopathy. The things that serve us well among normal people can become nooses around our necks when sociopaths get a hold on us.
     
  28. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Yes, I was long gone from Atticus1 when all that happened, so I have no knowledge of the events or politics that occurred. What I am seeing happening here now is independent of all that, and it is only slightly influenced by the unpleasant interactions I had with "Star" during my short stay at Atticus1.

    My "obsession" is studying human behavior, particularly psychology, and more particularly sociopathy. I see sociopathic behaviors, and when there is an abundance of these well documented behaviors, I see sociopaths. It doesn't matter whether I like these people or not, what their history is, or what power they wield. I just call it based on the evidence. If I'm wrong, I am happy to learn why and make corrections. But I haven't seen a wrong call since ... ... well, I can't think of one at the moment, but I recognize that I can be wrong.

    By the way, my definition of "thriving" at Atticus1 is making it into the Group of 18 (yes, it's a sarcastic definition). To make the 18 required Stephen's stamp of approval, did it not? I didn't realize you were also in the Group of 18, and evidently more than once. So you too "thrived" there! That whole Atticus1 situation was beyond bizarre, but that's to be expected when sociopaths run the show.
     
  29. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I don't really know what to say about this.

    I think it may be a left brain focus, right brain focus issue.
    Perhaps you are looking at her right brain material with an overly left brain focus?
    Everything isn't for everyone.

    I happen to enjoy her threads, including her style, and the conclusions when they arrive.
    But, I am not impatient for the point of a message to be revealed if I am enjoying the journey.
    I don't think she wanted to shut you down because she felt you were trying to expose her.
    I think she felt you were trolling her and she was unable to concentrate in that climate.
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  30. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    No, I was 18 again at the same time she was.

    Had you been there, you would realize she was involved in 18 relatively a short time and led the charge against Stephen when Atticus1 dissolved and was revamped as the anti-Stephen site: Agora. Brook was a leader of that movement along with all other members who sided against Stephen in the final battle with Rhi & Bashi described in Part One of our recent conversation. I was the only member who sided with Stephen & Rhi at that time. Brook and all of the other members, including Mark, blackballed me and removed me from staff. So I wound up enemies with all remaining members. I was accused of being a paid disinformation agent which is totally ridiculous. Although I was removed from my staff position, I remained a member and observed. Brook was staunchly anti-Stephen. She voted "NO" along with the majority when he attempted to rejoin.

    I remember she was against you at that time, along with all the staff. I think I was the only person on your side. That does not mean she feels exactly that same way today. I think Brook is a person who gives attitudes and situations reboots and fresh starts. If not, she would have never spoken to me again after all the things said and done while we were enemies.
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