Sociopaths / Psychopaths Sidebar Discussion

Please take note: Rose has said in a previous post to let this drop. It was a request, not a demand. I let it drop...It is Chico dredging this up again. Chico cannot help himself. He knows he was exposed so he is in attack mode. My behavior has hardly been that of a sociopath. I have contributed several threads to the forum about the exact topic I told Rose I would do so. It is Chico looking for a fight because he has been shown to be what he calls others....some of you realize this because I have been reading some of the threads here and one of them was a thread asking who the sociopaths are here and Chico got 3 votes!! I will add my vote to that as well making Chico in a heat for 4 votes. Its good people realize this.

Now on to your post: I asked if anyone called for a banning to establish why you would put your banning inuendo the way that you did. As I thought it makes no sense....You were trying to ask for a banning, caught in a lie again. I don't care about what Zook and others did in the past Chico. I don't hold grudges, nor do I have to agree with how others see authority and its use...My own opnion about authority is as an anarchist with Buddhist sensabilities. lol.

Listen its very simple: Don't be a bully and don't attack people....But you can't help yourself can you Chick lol. You have been exposed....

 

Your history as a poster is one of deception and manipulation. You can claim you don't pick targets because you try to con everyone.

Sociopaths are all about give and take. They are all about exchanging favors, as in "You pat my back, I'll pat yours."

At United People, you were part of GW's gang that was targeting me.

How many times have you targeted me? Avalon, Nexus, Atticus1, United People, and now Inphinet. And you expect us to believe you are a man who doesn't hold a grudge?

I love this lie of yours, as it once again illustrates the twisted mind of the sociopath. When normal people hear you say this, they naturally interpret it as you proclaiming your honesty. But when a sociopath says it, that is definitely not what he is thinking in his own mind, because he knows full well he is not honest. A sociopath cons people with his clever words, and that's why he can "truthfully" say he is a man of his word. With only his words, he gets people to believe he is something that he is not. Like an honest man.

Aww, the bully says he is being picked on because he thinks so fast, he can't be bothered with spelling correctly. Poor baby!

I know who the liar is between the two of us. Eventually, so will everyone else.

 

No, it is you that wants to obfuscate meaning, because like the Clintons, you are a sociopath. Words have precise meaning, and unlike you, I use them precisely. If I say "I would have to be in favor of banning David", that describes my feeling about a possible future regarding your participation at Inphinet. It's not calling for you to be banned, it simply describes how I would feel about it.

Which is why I don't bother to obfuscate semantically or otherwise. I do just the opposite: I seek to express myself clearly and precisely.

No one proposed a vote, because no one is calling for you to be banned. There is no voting on banning at Inphinet that I am aware of anyway. Stephen and crew were banned by Rose without any vote, as I understand it.

I'm generally opposed to banning. As a moderator at Nexus, I was often the only voice among the moderator team opposed to banning a member. More than once I asked to be allowed to discuss the situation by PM with the member about to be banned. Every time I did this, the member ended up staying with the forum without causing further problems. Rarely was I in favor of banning any member, but I do remember one member at Nexus who was clearly toxic and a deliberate agente provocateur. In a matter of days after joining Nexus, this unsavory character was banned by unanimous moderator vote. You will surely remember that David because that character was you, operating under the alias Popeye. Later, you joined United People, and Zook remembered you as Popeye at Nexus and wanted you removed from UP. I granted you a second chance. It was all for naught, as you were simply fooling everyone about your true intentions at UP. In the end, GW's outrageous King Art2 deception and your participation in it got you banned along with GW and her other loyal minions. It was the only time people were banned at United People in the five years it has been operating. That gives you a rather unique distinction, which might explain why I would have to be in favor of any banning of David from Inphinet that might occur. I would also have been in favor of Rose banning Stephen and Rhiannon back in December, which again I didn't call for or have anything to do with.

I agree I am not very smart, which is another reason I can't be the sociopath you accuse me of being. But I readily acknowledge that you are one very smart sociopath, and very dangerous to any forum administered by a non-sociopath (like this one). I speak from actual experience.

 

So Chico, because I made friends with these other posters, and despise your behavior (not necessarily you) thats your proof that I am a sociopath. Thanks for that post, I know understand why Zook abandon the forum. He was being decent...He was responding to inadvertantly causing Rose pain...Thats what a normal person does, not a sociopath. Heres what a sociopath does: "Brook is using her son's death to create sympathy for her position." So lets look at this difference between Chico and Zook shall we? it highlights the distinction between a sick individual and a decent individual:

I would bet my last dollar that virtually all the members of this forum with the exception of chick WOULD NOT say to Brook what Chic said. EVEN if they thought it may be true!!!! They would not say such a thing because most people have healthy boundaries regarding the things they would say, and not say to another person. Most of us would be mortified to throw the death of a person's child into an argument. Chic had absolutely no problem saying something horrible to Brook when he felt attacked...and not even attacked at that level...I mean its not like someone said something similarly out of bounds to Chic...Normal people do occasionally escalate in this fashion, this was not that type of situation.

Lets contrast that with Zook. Zook let Chico blab on and on and attack him because he saw that his subject upset another poster. That is normal behavior...not sociopathic by any stretch. Also, making friends with posters is normal behavior. I would also argue that calling a sociopath like Chic out on a forum is responsible behavior and hardly sociopathic!

Again lets be perfectly clear here folks: IT is not NORMAL to suggest that a POSTER is TRYING to use a personal tragedy, of the magnitude that happened to Brook, to gain advantage in a thread topic... EVEN if one actually believes that!!!! and BTW its Bullshit because Brook had every right to be upset that Chic was crapping on her thread and insulting her... Brook's transgression was asking for Chic to leave the thread. This was the magnitude of her insult, or perceived insult to Chic. Remember sociopaths have an inflated sense of their value, so this insult to Chic might well seem very insulting.

So dear poster: imagine you and I are in a thread battle and I have shared with you that my beloved dog, animal companion of many years passed yesterday and I am devistated. Now imagine that you think for a moment that I might have an advantage over you because I can use this trajedy for sympathy...You with me? Now imagine that in a subsequent post you call me out on this... You can't. You wouldn't...If you are like most people you would be ashamed to do such a thing...Frankly some of us would rather cut off a finger than do something so despicable. You can't because this is not normal behavior it is the behavior of a sociopath. Chic can do this. He had no problem what so ever in claiming that Brook was using her son's death to her advantage. YOU SEE HOW SICK THIS IS??!!! Seriously!!! Anyone who tolerates this from a member who then goes around and accuses good people of being ill... Well seriously folks chico is one sick individual and he should not be enabled under any conditions.

I can accept people who are antisemitic, I can even accept Chico's lionization of Hitler, because I believe in free speech. I can accept his posturing and his name calling...I can even accept the clinical way he obviously was trying to hurt Zook when Zook had the courage of his convictions regarding research...But I cannot accept what Chico did to Brook on that thread. That is why I have been so aggressive with this sociopath. Thats bullshit and nobody should tolerate that behavior...period.

 

Wow... You are so predictable. You truly are a sociopath aren't you? Like the Clintons you are now on to the semantic obfiscation route. You know that when you proposed the banning it is a matter of record so you try to obfiscate the meaning...and BTW yes, my spelling sucks its because I think a lot faster than I write, so be it. Any reasonable person would conclude, based on your past actions (bannings) and based on your statement regarding proposing a banning of yours truly, what your intention was Chico. You are not smart enough to use semantic obfiscation chap. When you stated you would be in favor of this banning who proposed a vote? and given your past statements about bannings why would you be in favor of such? You just keep digging a deeper hole, your not very smart kiddo.

My history as a poster would suggest that I don't pick targets, you on the other hand lol! No...I am a give and take kind of guy its pretty obvious actually. The only people I have ever commenced hostilities towards are people who gang up on a poster. Even then...I don't hold a grudge. I also am a man of my word. So...you are now so damn exposed that you have to pick on my spelling and try to obfiscate your previous posts....YOUR PATHETIC. For the record: Saying that one is in favor of a banning is proposing a banning, especially as an administrator. So quit the BS you liar. lol.

 

This is another great example of how sociopaths lie with the truth. While this quote from David is true, because it is talking about normal people, it is not true when talking about sociopaths. When sociopaths go about making friends on a forum, there is a great deal of deception.

I would recommend reviewing this post to understand how deceptive sociopaths can be when making friends on the forum. It's pretty much a match with how David has been proceeding here at Inphinet towards Rose, Shadowself, and even Zook.

 

These are just more examples of you twisting the truth into useful lies, David. Here's exactly what I said:

It's a shame you can't comprehend what you read, David. Your spelling needs work, too. And your reasoning is beyond repair. It would take me too long to deconstruct all of your idiocy. Besides, you can line up the lies much faster than I can address them. So here's another example of the many deceptions that you spin.

Did I actually ask that you be banned, or did I say "I would have to be in favor" of you being banned, given your intent to deceive and manipulate the forum? Speaking as a forum administrator, I still see it as an ugly necessity for the health of the forum, just as Rose banning Stephen and crew was an ugly necessity. I had to do the same thing at United People when I banned GW and crew, which included you, so I know your game here. But the point is really how you twist the truth to your advantage, continually, in your focus to deceive and manipulate. This is precisely what sociopaths do. It is the true intent behind their actions that makes all the difference. You can pretend to be exposing the horrific sociopath known as Chicodoodoo until you become rabid (and you are practically there), but your true intent is plain. It is character assassination, malicious discrediting, vicious slandering, and deliberate deception. My intent at this forum has never been about those things. I am your target now, but you will turn on others in a similar fashion should they ever oppose you. Stephen was the same way. Sociopaths like Stephen should be identified and disqualified. Same for sociopaths like you, David. And if I were truly the sociopath you falsely accuse me of being, the same would apply to me. In other words, I would have to be in favor of Chicodoodoo being banned if his true intent was to deceive and manipulate the forum.

 

"Who says David is a Sociopath." Yes...Sociopaths often have no sense of humor. You are indeed a humerless prig... You have yet to provide a proof of any accusation you have levied regarding deviant behavior chico! Lets make that perfectly clear for the thread participants: YOU have, to date, accused many individuals of being sociopaths...all the while holding antisemitic views, and denying that Hitler was a sociopath, and...HAVE yet to provide any basis for this accusation. Thats a fact. YOU have also, in the process of leveling these accusations displayed the very behavior, sociopathology, that you find so abhorrant! YOU actually do show signs of sociopathology, it is a real irony!

I have pointed these behaviors out consistantly. I also worked as a councellor in an acute ward, in one of the best mental hospitals in the country (Sheppard Pratt in Maryland). My ward was specifically for acute problems and to diagnose individuals who had a crisis. So unlike you I have actually worked with sociopaths, psychopaths, splitters, manics, unipolar depressives, etc. I have had a woman who was drop dead gorgeous look me in the eye and tell me that when she looks in the mirror she is so fat and ugly she wants to suicide...I have had individuals tell me that there was nothing wrong with them, that it was a physical problem, and actually be correct... I have had psychotic patients fly off in a rage after hearing a voice tell them to do so...and everything in between Chico. I actually know what I am talking about.

You use your own opinion, both a general opinion and regarding individuals who dare challenge your ideas, as a means to label individuals sociopaths...You are the very same type of sociopath that Mccarthy was, remember how he would label everyone who went against him a communist? You also handle power exactly like a sociopath: It took you a very short time to ask to have me banned. My crime? bringing back members who you chased off? disagreeing with you? Exposing you? What is amazing is that you accuse Bill Ryan, another sociopath indeed! of doing the very things you have tried to do.

You have been exposed sir. Its that simple. And actually? seeing what a sociopath you are, I have actually gained a large measure of empathy with Zook. Boy....when you throw someone under the bus you really make sure both sets of wheels hit them! And then when you saw Gemma as a mark, what does a sociopath do? Well.... throw Rose under the bus of course!! Make it seem like there is some inadequacy regarding Rose's decision to troll a member into an us/them dichotomy. Gemma falling for that shit is her decision....That just happens to be CLASSIC SOCIO BEHAVIOR my boy!!!

Shadow oh Shadow...Rose and the rest of the gang here do not understand your brilliance... Come on over to my sock puppet international group so we can create a consensus for your ideas, because you get it unlike these others!! Classic Sociopath deviant lack of social skills.... Where one gets some admiration and immediately goes into a power play, where one becomes more antisocial and creates a "them versus us" situation.

Heres why you did this Chicky boy: YOU know that when you alienate someone from the group THEY depend UPON you! You become their savior, their only source.... Martial Arts teachers do this consistantly... I actually will be creating a thread regarding a situation I had that is textbook regarding this very behavoir.

Anyone who cannot see this behavior and how Chick initiates it...you have to really learn to look at how people behave and what motivates their behavior. We all say we are after the damn truth!!!!! Just like when we sit down at madam woo woo's psychic emporium and when madam Woo Woo declares: "you are insecure".... DUHHHHH!!!! YOu take a spirit, put it in a physical prison, you put violence and sexuality, along with a death wish together into the psyche of this body...you create a fictional end to this being, that seems real....usually unpleasant end at that....you give this spirit and body limited resources, you age it slowly and inevitably....NO SHIT MADAM WOO WOO!!!!!! Ya Think?

These general statements say nothing about what motivates people....Freud actually was very insightful, Jung arguably even more so about constant patterns that inform our psychic situation....and Skinner, another sociopath BTW, one who stole a lot of research from the Russians, among others....describes the outward, our behavior as we are motivated to seek pleasure and validation.

Chick is obviously not motivated by the truth, he is motivated by his truth and feels, like most sociopaths that the end always justifies the means in pursuing this truth. Proof of this would be his hypocracy regarding bannings. He disrupts Shadow's thread and it is him exorscizing his rights...I disrupt his musings on my threads and I am a problem that needs to be banned. Can anyone deny this?

 

Ah, there it is, the open mind, the one that requires strict like-mindedness just like Avalon enforced, and Atticus1, and Nexus. Anti-sociopathic rhetoric is OK, though? Maybe not so much any more, now that David and Shadowself are back offering sweet overtures of friendship and like-mindedness. Didn't you learn your lesson with Stephen?

Another Peter Joseph / George Ohwell type of free association? Shouldn't you judge people by what they actually bring to the table, and not who they remind you of?

It would appear you don't like Gemma either. Kind of two-faced, isn't it, after welcoming her so warmly?

 

How disappointing to be falsely accused by you, Rose, without you being able to produce any evidence, or even wanting to. You seem to take the meaning you want from my words, suggesting any other interpretations don't matter, and then claim to possess an open mind.

Quite right that I know my own attitude, and it didn't change a whit from any suggestion that I might meet Peter Joseph. For one, I have no illusions that such a meeting would ever occur. For another, it wouldn't make any difference to what I do. I don't do alliances for the sake of notoriety or prestige. I work alone, quite independently. I don't need to make friends in the online world, and I have stated as much quite plainly and honestly in this forum. I have no need or interest in having Peter Joseph like me either. It is revealing that you would even think along those lines and make such a point. What you are really saying is that you don't like me. And no wonder, with all the off-base interpretations you have recently derived from my written words. But it's not necessary or important that you like me. I didn't come here for your friendship. I came here to talk about sociopaths, remember? I suspect that you are more interested now in friendly relations with sociopaths than you were when I started posting. That's OK by me, but don't expect me to follow suit.

 

You know, Uncle Zook did this exact same thing. He would often reflect every truth I revealed about him back onto me. Those truths about Zook did not apply to me at all, but that didn't matter to Zook. All that mattered to Zook was that it was convenient and easy to copy me, precisely because he didn't have a leg to stand on. This is classic sociopathic behavior, and you are displaying it in spades, David. When the truth is not on their side, what do sociopaths do? They lie. You are a proven liar, David. I've already pointed out your lies multiple times, and I continue to do it, because you lie so readily. You, on the other hand, accuse me of lying, but never present any valid evidence to back up your false accusations. Again, this is classic sociopathic behavior.

So if you admit you're a sociopath, and your behaviors can be easily matched to those of a sociopath, why are you so desperate to "kill the messenger" who says David is a sociopath?

 

WELL....That would be a bloody crack up! An ignoble end to a hell of a bromance frankly... " Peter Peter I love you...... the Jews are the problem with everything..... Right?... Wrong!?" "Its ok Peter I know you will come around!!" "Sit on what and rotate?"

 

Gemma

You made a comment regarding the fact that not every one in the United Nations is a bad person...something along those lines. Actually when one starts to look at these organizations one often finds groups within groups regarding loyalty to a higher purposes, etc. This seems fairly typical for the New World Order. You might have a look at Aaron Russo's interview with Rockefeller. One of the most interesting things Rockefeller tells Russo IMO and...its a very small statement actually, so there is not much consideration during the interview... anyhow he tells Russo that most of the people in the organizations don't know the real purpose. This has implications for your understanding of the UN, the people involved and what is being accomplished on different levels.

 

Want to see a sociopath? Look in the mirror.

 

yes and anyone who does not agree with Chico is a sociopath...Thats the very definition of a sociopath. So Chico what about your sock puppetry at Avalon? Are you special? you get a pass?

 

Ahh Monty Python...a great group indeed! Yes the Black Knights! I don't know Chico...to most you would be the one who is "wounded." Lol. But the difference would be that you caused your own wounds. You start out name calling and when called on it you have...how did you put it? "Not a leg to stand on."

 

Often times there is much deceptive and manipulative about those processes. I have seen it often in both the forums and real life. Sociopaths deceive and manipulate using these processes all the time! Stephen is infamous for doing it, as is Bill Ryan, both notable sociopaths. So for you to make such a false statement is just another indication of your predilection for lying. This makes perfect sense, since you are a sociopath.

But of course, David, you fall back on the same retort they all use. It's the old sociopath two-step, i.e. accusing your opponent of your own malfeasance. Maybe if you yell it louder, it will make it true, huh? You have nothing, David, not even a leg to stand on. You are so pathetic.



Monty Python- The Black Knight Fight

 

Oh, I'd really like to see that, Rose. Can you find it for us, please?

 

I suspect you don't like yourself very much then.

No, it's not the same at all, if the person really is a sociopath. It's like calling someone who steals from others a thief. Being truthful is not equivalent to punching someone in the nose. Well, maybe to a sociopath (or thief) it is, but I'm thinking of normal people.

Up until recently, it's just been you. I see Shadowself is back, so now there are two. Is that "most of the site"? Of course, Shezbeth might also come back, GW may join up with several different sock puppets, and Stephen may even find a helping hand to sneak back in incognito. Then it might be "most of the site".

That wouldn't surprise me.

 

I'm sorry Rose but I don't recall this and if it was a comment made, quite frankly it could well have been made socially in jest, nothing unusual there. So this whole "making famous" issue is quite absurd from my perspective as it has absolutely nothing to do with my activism or my interest in Chico's research and experience to date.

People scattered around the globe who are in positions of influence are however very important to my project for discussing strategies for education, dissemination of information, and formulating awareness campaigns. Just yesterday in fact I had the good fortune at a seminar to discuss my proposition with an activist who has been commissioned by the United Nations to develop and run a program for breaking down barriers within corporations for philanthropy and to educate and steer humanity toward developing greater capacity for empathy. For example: Jarvis' own words yesterday about his overarching goal: "To inoculate populations to avoid propaganda that creates group genocides". Jarvis is also using various neurological studies and research for identifying how to increase empathy within individuals and amongst "group sociopathy", via transitional behaviours, etc.

I am having discussions with Chico re these developments as I find his library of work as being of high contributory value to my endeavours. So no, this is no "rainbow carrot" delusion of grandeur. It is very real.

(And just for the record, I have noticed that there is considerable discussion on alternative forums re an insidious nature behind the United Nations but this insidiousness is equally pervasive in all our systems whilst we have sociopathic "group" leadership. Making opinionated claims therefore that the United Nations is purely and only an evil concept made up of evil people, yada yada, is unsubstantiated bullshit as there are literally thousands of people connected to programs and lobbying within the United Nations doing everything they can to bring forth a united, caring and sustainable humanity who are not part of the sociopathic groups that sabotage their efforts.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...mpathetic-people-activity-key-brain-area.html

These are great litmus tests for global perception preparing to evolve. If we think back to the successful transitional phase our populace went through over the past couple of decades re corruption awareness via mass activist movements, these snippets are like the emerging shoots of a very big tree, being the next big wake-up call we need to bring to humanity which revolves directly around sociopathic leadership and what we can do about.

I posted my Global Awareness Campaign concept on your forum to provide and encourage the opportunity for any interested persons to observe and/or assist in any way possible; however as mentioned before I will remove myself from your forum and continue at United People as it will be far more conducive for me to evolve campaign discussions with Chico there, rather than be constantly hindered here with misguided assumptions.

So this will be my last post and I wish you all the best.
Cheers
Gemma

 

Chico Said: "this gets you in trouble every time, because the sociopaths "make friends" with you, feeding your need for emotional connection and comfort, your need to feel fond of your fellow forum members. You get sucked right into their deception and manipulation. I saw it with Stephen, Shezbeth, Shadowself, and now David."

Chico You are paranoid delusional. Normal people on a forum make friends, it often fufills an emotional need, it is comforting. There is nothing deceptive about these processes. You have put yourself in such dire straits because to your way of thinking everyone is a sociopath, everyone needs something and thats why they are here right sociopath?... Do you hear yourself? Your truly a sick individual. You use a term incorrectly and when everything collapses around you its always someone elses fault. You always rely on yourself as the authority, and are bereft of understanding when you are insulting. YOU are the SOCIOPATH here!!!!!!

Rose explained it to you and its not really a question of whether she is right or wrong, you simply do not have the capacity to have empathy and see that. Sometimes you just apologize because you insulted someone...not because the person has a right, or does not have a right, to FEEL insulted. Yes FEEL, its not intellectual, it is an emotion. Do you see how you are behaving?