48 Laws - The Polls

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  1. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator


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    48 Laws - The Polls
    There will be 48 threads in the forum "48 Laws - The Polls" (not including this introductory thread). Each thread will address one of the 48 laws. The first post of each thread will contain one video from the series: The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene | Animated Book Summary in consecutive order. Members may post to discuss the law. A "yes" or "no" or "neutral" vote may be cast as to whether the law is sociopathic, or not.
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  2. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Thanks for your opinion. cuppa3

    Former, I suppose, member, Shezbeth, who authored the "Me in Metaphysics" thread, stated this book was his "bible".

    That is where this drama began.

    Some of us questioned his high praise of the material.
  3. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker


    I've never heard of this book or these laws purported by the author who I've never heard of either. I did take the time to look up the wiki view which didn't tell me much but did however give reviews on the book...

    Suffice it to say I'm hardly qualified to comment at this time...or possibly ever. I just don't know. But I will take a look here soon and come back to you.
  4. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I an bumping this Forum Introduction.
    And, a link to the individual polls contained so far:


    Chico did not feel there was any merit in continuing these polls.
    I thought the process might have spurred further areas of discussion.
    But, there was no use in continuing if I was the only participant.
    I would be interested in your opinion either way when you have time, Brook.
    And, I do realize how busy you are. No hurry.
  5. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Give us evidence, Zook. Your BS opinion doesn't cut it.

    You remind me of another lying sociopath, who also relies on nothing but his BS opinion:

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu draws Red Line on Iran's nuclear program United Nations UN
  6. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    First he wants me to create three polls because in his own words "that would be much more interesting" ... then he remarks that "It's not a matter of polling the public, Dufus!". One mouth; two opposing corners. FTR, the common masses had understood sociopathy more than adequately long before the elixir wagons of the 19th and 20th centuries rolled in and the duck-billed physicians on them started diagnosing maladies and prescribing cures. Ponds along the way into town dried up as bottles filled, with the wheel tracks giving free clue about the next town to be swindled, the tracks being lighter on the way out. Only, the common masses didn't use high-falutin' lexical gibberish like "sociopaths" ... they used simple descriptive names ... like bad seeds, black sheep, evil eyes, dark souls, etc. The modern century and its expanding psychological occ_u_pation and enterprise ... is little more than the business of making money off new terminology for the time-independent problem of evil (from the perspective of good).

    Most empaths (genetic and conditioned) would have found the humor in my allusion to pornography ... and left it alone at that. The dedicated character assassin, by contrast, seeks every opportunity to lock cross-hairs on their target. That said, have you ever watched internet porn, Chico? Let me put it aanother way, has anyone here never watched internet porn? That should separate the hard truthseekers from the soft kind, wot?

    I probably have more empathy than 98% of the population (in my best estimation) ... so I'm probably a little greater than 2-sigma but still well short of 3-sigma. By contrast, conditioned saints are in the 99.9% percentile range. Genetic saints are probably in the 99.999999% range. Rough estimates. Don't go to the horse races with them. Indeed, it is mainly the high quality of my empathy that fuels my exposition of the Rothschild bankstering empire and its tribal agenda for full spectrum dominance ... and its many agents (including yourself). The vast majority of people have fears that outweigh their empathic potential. I have the reverse orientation ... my empathy dominates and overrides my fears. I'm no hero; but I'm no goat either. The vast majority of the common masses, by contrast, have chosen the pasture munch, sheeple wool and goat horns. I call it like I sees it. Unlike you, Chico, who calls it like the social engineers ordered it. The archives of every forum that I had ever participated in, attest to the genuine nature of my truthseeking. Good luck in trying to defeat the archives.

    The above mash of sentences remind me of that 4-step saying attributed to a few individuals, including Gandhi: First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Our resident character assassin is having a busy day, isn't he?

    If you want an example of audacity, mendacity, and tenacity ... you get a 3-for in the above nattering.

    I mean, first you have Chico admitting that the Screech Owl had 5 or more sockpuppets in place at UP ... then he promotes the poll that suspended me as if the voting system had not been infected with sockpuppet voters (e.g. as if the results were genuine). When a person is laying out mischief like confetti on New Year's eve, what do they think they can accomplish? Blind the view for more than a few seconds?

    FWIW, when the sockpuppets took over United People, it effectively became a pirate ship on the tall waters. Chico was the pirate captain. His officers were buccaneers Mags and Andy. The rest of the infection were mutineers waiting for their chance. All the decent folk were made to walk the plank. I have since absolved Andy of any lasting blame, for he has since experienced the true nature of Chico and now understands Chico in the way that most people now understand him. Indeed, the active membership of United People (which fluctuates between 1 and 3 individuals but is mostly a 1-man show) ... is proof positive that Chico has lost his way, his integrity, and the many people who once believed in him.

    Question begs: when pirates vote, should we hold the vote as a good example for the lawful community? Or should we recognize the inherent corruption in a democracy of thieves?

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  7. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    What a load of crock. I'm merely bringing you into resolution. To me, the word sociopath implies genetic sociopath. I seriously doubt you are that. Of course, with the Gaussian normal distribution as the modeling, I have to place you somewhere on the sociopath-empath continuum axis. On this axis, I can exclude you from being greater than 1-sigma on either side, for you are neither a genetic sociopath nor a genetic empath. You are part of the common unremarkable mass contained by the gates of +/- 1-sigma. This mass exhibits both sociopathic and empathic tendencies; individual placement on this axis is determined by the relative mix of sociopathic and empathic tendencies in the individual. In this new resolution, you are definitely not on the empathic side of things ... which then places you in the sub-collective extending up to but not beyond 1-sigma on the sociopathic side, e.g. on balance, you have more sociopathic tendencies than empathic tendencies. This is not a permanent placement. You can move onto the empathic side (up to 1-sigma) if you put your mind to it. But you have not shown any ability in this regard. Your behaviors appear to be entrenched. Old dog. Old tricks. Ergo, you're a conditional sociopath and this is fully consistent with my not having sufficient evidence to call you a sociopath (which, in my lexicon, means genetic sociopath or a born bad seed).

    I just handed you your head using statistical modeling, Chico. Why don't you make the most of this opportunity and mount a horse ... and point it in the direction of Sleepy Hollow? slappy

  8. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Oh, now that's an interesting tactical change, Zook. You've been very careful up to this point to avoid calling me a sociopath, since you are well aware that sociopaths almost always do exactly that to anyone that dares expose them. Indeed, I have often written about how sociopaths accuse their opponents of their own malfeasance, which is one of their important identifying characteristics. You have been caught doing this many times at UP, but never "the big one". And now you have completed all my expectations.

    What the hell happened, Zook? Are you slipping, getting tired, or just being sloppy? And what is a "conditioned" sociopath? Can't you just say I'm a sociopath and a pathological liar? Even that is redundant, as sociopaths are pathological liars.

    In any event, as with all your accusations, I expect to see your evidence. You should be able to show many linked examples of behaviors that I demonstrate that match the usual check lists of sociopathic traits.

    I look forward to your illuminating exposé.
  9. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Chico's mendacity is disgusting to be sure. But I'm going to defend him a bit here, Thin Pine.

    The coinage "anti-Semite" has no real meaning. Most modern Jews are not even descended from Judeans ... but come from a Turkic ancestry. "Anti-Turkic" would be a more meaningful descriptor here.

    The etymology of antiSemitism can be found here:

    The term has been misappropriated to serve the Zionist agenda in the late 19th century. A subdominant agenda of the larger Rothschild-designed bankster agenda to own all the planet's resources. A tribal agenda because most of the so-called Jewish leaders that steer this agenda are not really Jews at all, but Turks. Pagan Khazars converted to Judaism (e.g. Phariseeasm) by King Bulan in 740 AD.

    As for Holocaust denial ... the Zionist lobby is the one caught fabricating stuff and is in proactive duty building a facade over the facts. For example, are you familiar with the story of the two Auschwitz plaques?

    It is far past time for an international investigation conducted by truly impartial scientists, researchers and scholars into the reality of Auschwitz to properly and as accurately as possible bring history into accord with the facts. Peoples of all religions and persuasions have a right to such facts. So far, as the following data demonstrates, much of it from the world's foremost Jewish Holocaust scholars, we are a long way from a consensus on the truth of what happened at Auschwitz in WWII.

    The Plaques At Auschwitz

    The ever declining numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz are graphically illustrated by the plaques from the camp.

    The first is the plaque that was on display at the Auschwitz camp from 1948 until 1989 and states "4 million" victims perished.

    The second plaque currently on display at Auschwitz has the dramatically reduced number of victims to now only "1.5 million"...a casual reduction in the number of deaths by an incredible 2.5 million.

    So, the official deaths at Auschwitz drop by a stunning 2.5 million, but the legendary overall Holocaust figure of 6,000,000 dead remains the same...

    Also, the 6,000,000 figure was being used by the Zionist agenda some 20 years before Nazi Germany. How is that possible?

    In short, Holocaust affirmation, not Holocaust denial ... is the real scam.

    As for Chico being a neoNazi, that's a bit of a stretch, IMO. He's a pathological liar and a conditioned sociopath, to be sure ... but he's more likely to be affiliated with the Zionist agenda than opposed to it. Just study his arguments over at United People. He's a slippery eel and double dealer ... making both indictments and apologies wrt the Zionist agenda. In the favor of Zionism, Chico supports provable proven Zionist agents like Assange, Pilger, Kokesh, etc. ... and against the favor of Zionism, he adopts the most outrageous claims made against Zionism and ignores the real hard facts that condemn Zionism.

  10. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Really? I'm sorry if I mistook it as something more sinister. The historical revisionists I study, like Vincent Reynouard, Robert Faurisson, and Ernst Zundel are often treated to those exact same derogatory labels by some rather vicious characters. They are also thrown into prison for investigating historical accuracy! What's wrong with that picture? Just about everything...

    You're welcome. My position is not really what's important. It's the truth that should have precedence.

    Well that's a relief. I can easily imagine another Shezbeth, only one more capable, lying in wait for me. It happens far too often, more than I would prefer.

    You should be aware that those derogatory labels you employed are the very defense mechanisms that the ruling sociopaths have brainwashed us to use in policing ourselves. You may know that the CIA started the derogatory label "conspiracy theory" in the 1960's to aid them in covering up the Kennedy assassination that they helped orchestrate. The Zionist Jews have done the exact same thing with the three labels you used: anti-Semite, Holocaust denier, and Neo-Nazi. Likewise, they use those terms to cover up the unimaginable crimes of deception and manipulation that they have employed against all of humanity in their pursuit of power and control over the rest of us. So when you come at me with those very same three labels, lots of red flags go up in my mind. You are either heavily brain-washed, or you are one of them. There's not much middle ground there, unfortunately.
  11. Thin Pine

    Thin Pine Member

    It was a straightforward question Chico. My assumptions were based solely on what I have seen you post here and I am genuinely interested in your position and wanted you to respond. You started to answer and now I will go and have a look at the link you provided. Thanks.

    You know me from no other forums and there was nothing ad-hominen in my assumption as there is nothing currently to argue with.
  12. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I have a feeling you have a knife you would like to plant in my back, Thin Pine. By what other names would I know you by, and from what other forums? You're not about to tell me though, are you. That would take away your advantage of anonymity. There are several Laws of Power that apply to that, as I'm sure you are aware.

    You need not make any assumptions about me, Thin Pine. Everything is openly and honestly documented at United People. Here's a thread to get you started called The Holocaust Lie. You will make much better arguments if you read the 140+ posts there and study all the referenced material before you begin your ad hominems such as "anti-semite, holocaust denier and Neo-Nazi". That is indeed what you are missing "somewhere along the line". Name-calling is simply not going to cut it. Study your enemy, sharpen your knife, and then come back to tango. I'll reserve a dance for you.
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  13. Thin Pine

    Thin Pine Member

    Chico, would I be correct in my assumption that you are an anti-semite, holocaust denier and Neo-Nazi or am I missing the point somewhere along the line?
  14. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Because it is an idiotic idea, Zook! The polls would mean nothing! Most people don't even know what a sociopath is. Of the few that do, most have no experience successfully and justifiably identifying a sociopath. And of those tiny few who do, they know that identifying a sociopath requires careful study and a collection of supporting evidence derived from behavioral observation of the subject. It's not a matter of polling the public, Dufus!

    You are such a DUFUS! You don't ask sociopaths to assess their own psychology. They will lie to you! Just like you are doing now:

    OK, the part about Internet porn is probably true, as all propaganda has to have some truth thrown in to have apparent credibility. But you "probably" a 2-sigma empath?! I would bet against that at whatever price you want to wager, if only we could have you accurately tested at low cost. A 2-sigma empath would have more empathy than 95% of the population. That would make you almost a saint, Zook. Needless to say, you have treated us to first-class BS once again.

    Once you get started, the BS just flows and flows seemingly without end.

    Zook, do you think no one notices you reaching up your colon to pull out your expert opinion here? Your outrageous claims with absolutely nothing to support them are truly beyond belief.

    All of that is the official story, the propaganda, the brain-washing, the false-flag, the con fed to the gullible public. You might as well preach the official government story of the Muslim extremists hijacking planes with box-cutters on 9/11 and flying them into buildings with incredible precision when they couldn't even pass flight school in a Piper Cub!

    Say... do you work for Israel, by chance?

    I knew it! You were suspended from UP by such a poll, so you would naturally be adverse to being publicly judged. But it's OK by you to do that to Hitler, the most scapegoated person since the fallen angel Lucifer! You don't believe in taking chances, do you, Zook.

    Say what?! After all that psycho-babble you just treated us to, you have the audacity to accuse me of "paucity of thought"?

    Got hypocrisy, Zook? Don't bother answering, because we know you'll lie.
  15. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I've got an idea. smillle
    How about we start a poll "Who's a Sociopath?"
    Then, we list all our names (including a couple of past members) and allow multiple choices?
  16. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    I'm left wondering why you couldn't have started the three polls yourself? So be it.

    I know who I am, so I don't need to poll myself. I'm probably a 2-sigma empath ... still well short of the enlightened empaths of 3- and 4- sigma variety that I aspire to be (but keep failing in my attempts). I could probably reach 3- sigma if I stopped watching internet porn now and then, but hey, between classy curves and canonization, it's a no-brainer for me ... tits it is!

    I have a good idea of who you are, Chico ... a fifth column gatekeeper and intrepid troll fighting the fierce dragons of truthseeking. You're probably a 1-sigma or half-sigma conditioned sociopath. Not as problematic for society as the genetic bad seeds of 2-, 3-, and 4-sigma sociopathy, to be sure. There is always hope for rehabilitation for conditioned sociopaths, Chico, but you consistently refuse much-needed therapy. So be it. You will be fried in your own batter if that's the way you want it.

    Hitler? From my research, I would have to classify Hitler as a 2- or 3-sigma genetic sociopath. I mean, there's always the possibility that Hitler could be a conditioned 1-sigma sociopath merely exemplifying the adage of "absolute power corrupts absolutely". Still there's too much evidence in Hitler's own exhibits to consider him anything other than a genetic bad seed with above-threshold afflictions of megalomania, narcissism, syngeneic-affinity (to the point of racial supremacy), xenophobia, paranoia, scapegoating tendency, viewing the German people as disposable pawns in a chess game, detachment from the sufferings of those he had ordered interned in concentration camps, or those he had ordered into the great winter of Russia in his personal quest for Lebensraum, etc. etc. Hitler was also a gifted artist and draftsman ... and those kind are usually without peers, for obvious reasons. The resulting feeling of loneliness probably compounded his narcissism and megalomania. IMO.

    That said, I will commence with a single new poll shortly ... a poll relevant to what I want to discover, namely, people's opinions of Hitler's psychological nature. Because I want to expose - to anyone and everyone watching - the paucity of thought process involved in the diagnoses offered by Dr. Chico Doo Doo and his Duck Factory. I'm really not interested in people's opinions of who I am or who you are. They are welcome to their opinions on their own time and energies. As it were.

  17. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Zook, I realized you probably meant you wanted the post moved to the Forum Warriors thread and not a new thread in the Forum Warriors forum. Moving the post to a new thread in that forum created confusion because it was automatically titled as a duplicate 48 Laws - The Polls. I have moved your post to the existing Forum Warriors thread instead. This process left a blank new thread I temporarily renamed Zook's Thread.

    Sorry for the confusion and for any automatic alerts you, and any who may have been watching that thread, may receive.
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  18. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I suggest you start three polls.

    "Is _____ a sociopath?"
    Yes, No, Don't Know.

    One poll for Hitler, one for Chicodoodoo, and one for UncleZook.

    That would be much more interesting.
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  19. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Post moved as requested.
    Feel free to re-title your thread there if you want to. :)
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  20. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Yes, I agree with your contention that my post is out of place in this thread. Mea culpa. If one of the administrators can move it to the Warriors thread, it would be greatly appreciated. In the future, I will try to confine my mission of exacting revenge and clearing my good name to the Warriors thread. And now that I know how to create threads and polls, take my mission to new threads dedicated to that purpose in teh Warriors forum.

    I care only enough about the psychology of Hitler so that I can stop its hard-earned reputation from being abused and transformed into something it is not. You've been caught transforming Hitler's psychological reputation with your matchbook college credentials ... and that abuse warrants inspection. I will soon start a poll to gauge the state of the critical thinking masses as it pertains to the facts of Hitler's psychology. Is Hitler really not a sociopath (thus implying above-average empath in the distribution of psychological natures)? Or is Hitler an average sociopath (of the middle variety with a mix of sociopathic/empathic natures)? Or is Hitler an above-average sociopath (of the genetic bad seed variety)?

    I will try to keep the design of the poll simple but effective (e.g. no ambiguity). Give me a day or two.

  21. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Zook, this is the thread on The 48 Laws of Power. Could you please start a thread on "The Problem with Chico" or something similar where you can pursue your mission of exacting revenge and clearing your "good name"?

    "An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers." -- Amanda Bloom

    You don't really care about the psychology of Hitler, Zook. What you care about is that Chico has presented evidence that your behavior matches a sociopath's behavior. You cannot allow this to stand because of Law of Power # 5 -- "So much depends on reputation, guard it with your life." For a sociopath, appearances are a matter of life or death -- not the life or death of the sociopath, but the life or death of the deceptions he sows. Those deceptions are the raison d'être for the sociopath. One vital piece of appearances, the false façade the sociopath projects, is indeed his reputation. This is why your mission here is so important, Zook.
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  22. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I now notice you haven't started any threads yet.
    If you go to InPHInet Forums and click on Portal Threads (or whatever forum you want) there is a Create Thread button.
    Down the page there should be the poll section:

    If it isn't there let me know. I will check permissions and correct the problem.
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  23. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member


    ps3: If you think my post has better topical relevance on Inphinet Forum Warriors, please move it there.
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  24. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    That sounds like 25 Ways to Ruin a reputation too, doesn't it?
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  25. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

    The Rules of Disinformation are similar to The 48 Laws of Power. Why? Because we're talking deception, which is what sociopaths do. You can practically map every one of the disinformation rules onto one or more power rules.

    Isn't that a coincidence?

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  26. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I read the following this morning, which is related to your observation:

    Sociopaths are focused on accumulating power so that they can control other people and make them into slaves serving the "masters". It is the fundamental purpose of their lives, a direct result of their defective psychology built around a lack of empathy. All the deception and manipulation sociopaths do is aimed at obtaining power and control over others, whether it be complete control or simply partial control over some small aspect of another's behavior. Our entire economic system has become a control mechanism serving the ruling sociopaths, which explains why the ruling sociopaths wanted control of that system, and why we are economic slaves today. In the past, religion was the primary control mechanism, and people were spiritual slaves to the religious hierarchies of power, like the Catholic Church. And in the future, if the pattern continues, advanced technology will be used to directly influence the mind, and we will be mental slaves.

    As long as sociopaths remain unidentified and unmanaged, the pattern is going to continue. We are nothing but lab rats to the ruling sociopaths.

    Motivation: Self-Stimulation in Rats
  27. Shezbeth

    Shezbeth Zonbi Ninshu

    My goodness, that's precisely the same line of thinking that gun-control enthusiasts accuse gun owners/enthusiasts of maintaining, with the same prognosis for outcome.
  28. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I didn't. I expected a non-sociopath caught up in rationalizing the sociopath's methods and trying to make some sense out of them from a non-sociopath's perspective. And that's pretty much what I saw.

    Now the author of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion I would certainly expect to be a serious sociopath.

    I disagree with this argument, which Shezbeth has always made. The argument is a feint to justify spreading the 48 laws so that the public becomes sympathetic to this way of thinking and behaving. It is part of the agenda to mold the public in the sociopath's image.

    The 48 Laws of Power are meant to be used to pursue power over others through deception and manipulation. The emphasis is not at all on forewarning others. It's a sociopath's field manual of proactive measures, not a manual of defensive techniques to protect yourself against sociopaths. It is no coincidence that it targets the business world, the political world, the military world, etc. where hierarchy is endemic. All of these are sociopathic structures where sociopaths thrive and where these laws will work to a sociopath's advantage against the empathetic public.
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  29. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Considering other people's opinions is not the same thing as letting them think for you. I consider your opinions, so does that mean you do my thinking for me? Apparently not, given how upset my thinking makes you.

    Once again, yours is very much an AndyWight type of comment. He's a sociopath too, in cased you missed that.
  30. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I want to apologize if my above comment seemed rude to Christine. It may be just that I have never seen someone wear a scarf on their shoulder, take it off, and on again, then midway through put on a ring the diameter of a tangerine and wave it around in front of them and place it by their face, then end with a cat gesture in an interview before. Maybe this is something learned at interview school, but I had the uncomfortable feeling I was watching someone with one eye in the mirror admiring herself for near two hours and it detracted from good comments she was making. This is the only interview of Christine's I have ever seen and may not be her normal style.