Trump Takes Action to Stop a War

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    Iran’s Unfriendly Skies

    Last week Iran apologized for launching a Soviet-made missile that killed 176 people aboard Ukraine International Flight 752. President Hassan Rouhani said, “The Islamic Republic of Iran deeply regrets this disastrous mistake.”

    That’s not what the Iranian leaders said at first. They claimed it was due to a mechanical malfunction. Then they refused to give up the black box. Clearly they were trying to hide a terrible mistake, but the scientific evidence was too overwhelming for them to perpetuate such a lie for very long.

    The lie outraged the people of Tehran, sparking mass protests. Living under the harsh tyranny of an authoritarian theocracy has to be maddening for a people yearning for freedom, but the Iranians themselves will have to take out the mullahs on their own. The United States should stay out of it except for offering words of encouragement such as the ones President Trump tweeted.

    The backward theocratic radicals running Iran have killed thousands of their own citizens. They have lost all credibility and rule by brute force.

    It’s time for Iran to become a free and peaceful nation.

    —Ben Garrison
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    We see more of his Genius manifest each day. I do not understand how so many can observe him and not be aware of this. That fact completely baffles me. For some reason, I am constantly reminded of that viral sound some time ago where half the people heard one word and half heard another. It was at one point stated that IQ was a determining factor in which word people heard. Genius is so often misconstrued.
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    BERN, Switzerland—Hours after a U.S. strike killed Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the Trump administration sent an urgent back channel message to Tehran: Don’t escalate.

    The encrypted fax was sent via the Swiss Embassy in Iran, one of the few means of direct, confidential communication between the two sides, U.S. officials said.

    In the days that followed, the White House and Iranian leaders exchanged further messages, which officials in both countries described as far more measured than the fiery rhetoric traded publicly by politicians.

    A week later, and after a retaliatory Iranian missile attack on two military bases hosting American troops that inflicted no casualties, Washington and Tehran seemed to be stepping back from the brink of open hostilities—for now.

    “We don’t communicate with the Iranians that much, but when we do the Swiss have played a critical role to convey messages and avoid miscalculation,” a senior U.S. official said.

    A spokesman at Iran’s mission to the United Nations declined to comment on the exchanges but said “we appreciate [the Swiss] for any efforts they make to provide an efficient channel to exchange letters when and if necessary.”

    One Iranian official said the back channel provided a welcome bridge, when all others had been burned: “In the desert, even a drop of water matters.”
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    I had came across these tweets a couple of days ago.
    This guy was talking about Trump teaching himself languages so he could deal better with Korea and Iran.

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    Here's a Gateway Pundit article that has some links inside:
    BREAKING REPORT — IRAN ROUNDUP for January 4th thru 9th – General Soleimani was betrayed by fellow IRGC members!
    Raman Ghavami is the author of a couple of articles I linked in my earlier post, from Fair Observer.

    I read this tweet the day it was written, but could not find any colloborating information, it's also in the above Gateway Pundit article:

    I read another article linked within 125 IRGC officers were arrested .
    The site looks legit.
    Jeez... in looking at the Gateway Pundit article just now, it looks like it's twice as long as it was last night.
    It must be getting updated a lot.
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    I've heard it in the Twitter chatter, but have not been able to confirm it to my satisfaction, yet.
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    and... there is this from Sara Carter, but post does not lead to related article...
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    intheMatrixxx is reporting downed Ukrainian Plane was carrying nuclear and rocket experts. I see no referrence in the attached article. Have you heard this, tag?

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    This was a riveting interview last night:
    Part 1 Interview with Laura Ingraham

    Part 2 Interview with Laura Ingraham

    Part 3 Interview with Laura Ingraham

    Part 4 Interview with Laura Ingraham

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    Brilliant Post, tag. I have been studying your links and conclusions with great interest for quite some time today. In addition, I found a search on INFJ brain processes most enlightening in understanding you and some traits I believe we hold in common.

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    Rep. Crenshaw on Iran: I'm tired of Dems using 'false talking points'
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    And here's another bit, the articles I linked here have some good in-depth information:
    I feel there is a connection between what's happening in Ukraine, and what's happening in Iran.
    I apologize, it's somewhat nebulous in my mind right now, (downside/upside of how an INFJ brain processes information).
    mgray's column also raises similar thoughts. A primary skill in developing research skills is the art/science of formulating questions.
    I thought this one was particularly helpful.
    The similar question I've been asking myself is "Did the uranium sold to Rosatom (Russia) go through Ukraine to Iran, to be used specifically for nuclear weapons?"

    Soliemani was evidently working with the past administration to clean up the Benghazi gun-running deal. Was he also related to the movement of the US sold uranium?

    (And note that when Iran purportedly threatened to reveal who in the past administration, DC operatives, and I think EU operatives , received bribes to enrich themselves in exchange for paying certain factions within Iran to build nuclear weapons (black sites); who made visits to the region?) (John Kerry, Macron, Merkel, ??)

    I suspect a similar model (endless wars business model) applies to North Korea.
    Tehran takes new step toward building a nuclear weapon, Arab News (7 Sep 2019)
    The Obama Administration’s Uranium One Scandal (National Review) 21 Oct 2017
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    I had another conversation about the topic of Iran, copying it here:

    Like all nations, and human nature, the situation in Iran is complex. And probably much more than people realize.
    I read through all the Iran themed posts last night and in the process came across this article that I feel treats the situation within Iran in one of the more balanced ways I've seen yet.

    Without Ethnic Minorities, Regime Change in Iran Will Remain a Distant Hope

    I'd like to point out that I tend to make a distinction in my mind between the Islamic Republic (current regime), Iran the country, and the Persian people and culture.
    I don't necessarily equate them as the "same."

    I had not yet made the distinction of the ethnic minorities within Iran and the role they play in Iranian politics.
    This article expands my thinking on this topic.
    I found another article by the same writer above, Raman Ghavami, Has Iran Violated the Nuclear Deal?, this statement caught my attention.
    The Q posts mentioned a secret site, black site, in northern Syria, 30 April 2018. Several months prior to the MeK conference that Rudy G addressed, that also experienced a bomb threat.
    I had found it odd that Iran attacked a site in northern Syria recently.
    And many people have wondered about Putin's visit to Syria.
    Then consider this AP report: Reports: Unidentified planes strike targets in eastern Syria

    The stated goal of Khamieni's Axis of Resistance is to extend the Islamic Republic across the Fertile Crescent, (as a base for global expansion)

    This is an underlying tenet of all Islam sects, Shia, Sunni, and Wahiddi, and sub-sects within these sects.

    (And they all seem to play into that "end times war" scenario. I often think of Dune when I think about this situation of the 3 Abrahamic religions. The Bene' Gesserit sisters seeded mythology that could be tapped and activated to steer various planetary cultures. Paul Atriedes' mother, Jessica, used that to her advantage with the Arrakis Freeman to keep her and Paul alive after the assassination of her husband Leto.)

    (Another unrelated side note: Another movie version of Dune is due out at the end of 2020.)

    I felt Q was noting that all of these are created for the purposes different than what the public are sold, but rather as a means to fleece the US taxpayers, and/or the People of the planet. USAID, Climate Agenda, Nuclear deals, (black sites funded and continue to serve the "endless wars" racketeering scheme, ect.. )

    JC Collins of Philosophy of Metrics talks about how the Islam faith was created by the Pope to counterbalance the people's liberation from the Catholic Church via the Protestant movement. (All 3 faiths seem to serve the same masters. As do the banker class and the more malicious elements of Deep State operatives.)