Was Hitler a sociopath?

Discussion in 'Φ v.2 Who is a SOCIOPATH?' started by UncleZook, Feb 7, 2016.


Was Hitler a sociopath?

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  1. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Yeah, yeah... George Bush tried this too. Sociopaths all.

    George W. Bush on 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
  2. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    That's it? That's all you can do? You attack the credibility of one messenger while completely ignoring the overall message? And you criticize him because he hasn't yet rebelled against the fairy tale of 9/11, just like 80% of the population?

    Should we check The Rules of Disinformation to see which ones you are using now? Or maybe The 48 Rules of Power? You are such a snake, Zook. A real sociopath.

    You tried this exact same ploy umpteen times at United People, and you got busted every time. Do I have to link to example posts to get you to stop? Do you really believe people are so dumb here that they will fall for that same kind of garbage from you?

    Those are rhetorical questions, by the way, because I know you won't stop, and I know you think people are dumb. It comes with the territory when you're a sociopath.
  3. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Chico is caught disseminating propaganda from Niall Ferguson.

    For example, here's a link that Chico cites and boldly promotes as Hitler shutting out Rothschild agents:

    Yet, when you google Niall Ferguson - one of the authors cited by Chico and a contributor to the repackaging of Hitler as an enemy of the Rothschilds (and not merely one of their many puppets) ... specifically, upon googling Ferguson's narrative of the 9/11/2001 attacks (which are a litmus test for integrity) ... we find that Ferguson is propping up the mainstream neoArabian fairy tale of Osama bin Laden (with Bedouins, boxcutters, and Boeings) and Al Qaeda ... just like every other obsequious servant that suckles on the milktit of mainstream employment. As late as 2011, Ferguson has been trading his credibility for Rothschild carrots. 'Nuff said.

    Beware of those repackaging Hitler's image. Some do it for Rothschild carrots; some do it to fill a void in superheroes; some do it because their pride won't let them admit reality ... and some do it for all three.

  4. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Zook, they are talking about you. I figured you would want to know.

    You want everyone to believe Hitler was just a Rothschild puppet, which is incredibly ludicrous, given how they spent so much time and effort to get the Allied countries whose debt they controlled to obliterate Hitler and his people. Is that what they do to their puppets, Zook? Really? Or is that what they do to the leaders who oppose them, the ones they can't control...
  5. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Only to an oversimplifying binary thinker like yourself.

    No one can know the path not taken, Zook. We do know that Hitler was a self-made man long before he was a household name in Germany. He was a nobody when he enlisted, as an Austrian, to fight for the Germans at the start of World War I. He wasn't getting any Rothschild money then. He went in with the lowest rank, fought for four years, and came out as a corporal, despite winning Germany's highest decoration (the Iron Cross) twice! He was already a self-made man, and there's no Rothschild money coming his way. He doggedly pursues art after the war, despite enormous disappointments, and produces some incredibly impressive works. He's a self-made man for the second time, and still no Rothschild money. Then he gets involved with politics, starting out once again at the lowest rank, and despite enormous disappointments (again) rises to the highest levels of German politics on his own merit through dogged determination and genuine work. So here he is, a self-made man for the third time, and all without Rothschild money.

    Now, at the top of German politics, do you think the Rothschilds through their agents are trying to steer things with their enormous wealth? Absolutely they are, whether Hitler is there or not. This is the corrupt world of the organized Zionist Jewish sociopaths, and Hitler is not one of them! He's a grass-roots candidate that wasn't supposed to succeed. Hitler is well aware that the Rothschild banksters decimated Germany with their hyperinflation of the 1920s. So you know what Hitler does when he comes to power? He shuts the Rothschild agents out! ( 1, 2, 3, 4 ) And in the next six years, from 1933 to 1939, Germany flourishes to the utter amazement of the rest of the floundering Rothschild-controlled world.

    So here is UncleZook, once again spinning history to fit his twisted agenda of discrediting Chico so that Zook can escape being labeled a sociopath. You're a sick puppy Zook, but that's what it means to be a sociopath.
  6. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Because everything we've been taught about Hitler is false. You may think Hitler wanted the war and started the war. He did neither. He was making peace proposals as a matter of course, which Churchill and FDR not only refused to consider, but covered up! Rudolf Hess, Hitler's most trusted aide and the Reich's number two man, was sent by Hitler to England alone in a bid to convince the English how seriously Hitler wanted peace. Hess was thrown in prison for the rest of his life until his death (some say murder) in 1987, always under solitary confinement so the true story wouldn't come out.

    Once you realize they lied about Hitler, and they lied about World War II, and they lied about the Holocaust (there's no evidence that any Jews were ever gassed), you realize they lied about everything, and they're still lying today! And the lies aren't minor, they are massive! So massive that the general public is living in a completely fabricated Matrix, much like the movie with the same name.
  7. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    There are a few good reasons for still talking about Hitler, Lights.

    The most obvious is to set the factual account of events in place. The mainstream media - Zionist owned to near totality - has vilified Hitler mercilessly because he plays the Big Bad Wolf bent on consuming Little Red Riding Hood ... and serves its agenda of perpetual Zionist victimhood. Hitler is not as bad as the caricature he represents. No human can be that evil. Indeed, hyperbole hath no greater exercise than in the vilification and canonization of mortal beings. To complete the thought, neither Mother Theresa nor Gandhi were all that good at the other end of the spectrum. For the truthseeker, this presents a dilemma ... should we leave history alone to the commissioned quills of the conquerors ... or should we attempt to find better resolution in the stories being handed down the generational lines? I vote for better resolution.

    Another good reason ... there's been a resurrection of Hitler's image - this time in white robes under a halo. This resurrection is being managed by the hitchhiker's thumb of the same Hidden Hand that had vilified him previously with four fingers (the middle one raised, three others curled). Deception, division, and ongoing conquest. As it were. For example, if one tracks the financing of the propaganda documentary, "The Greatest Story Never Told", one quickly derives from the calculated omissions that Hitler is being represented in a false light. But why, one should ask? The answer is found in chaos theory. Disorder is being sought by the bankster empire. They want to plunge this world into a third global war circumstance complete with four horsemen riding into the apocalypse ... rendering chaos from which they can complete their plans for full spectrum dominance by riding in a fifth horseman in shining armor. But to get to the fifth horseman, they need to first gallop the four other horsemen. They are doing this now.

    Which brings us to Hitler. Hitler is one of the footsoldiers of the Horseman of War. There are many many footsoldiers, to be sure. Iran. North Korea. Feminism. Environmentalism. Islam. Rap music. Mainstream pornography. Etc. Anything that will divide people into opposing camps readying for a tussle, creates a footsoldier. Losing any footsoldier reduces the War army. Gaining a footsoldier increases the War army. The resurrection of Hitler in a saintly image against his previous unanimously-vilified caricature creates a footsoldier for the War army. Indeed, The Greatest Story Never Told ... is being promoted by Stormfront.org. But here's the rub, get ready for it ... Stormfront, the KKK, neoNazis, and virtually all extreme rightwing organizations get their major source of funding from - and are being managed by - the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (which is a branch of the Rothschild central banking empire).

    So ... getting back to Hitler, he is being repackaged as a saint today because far too many people have a unanimous opinion of Hitler (one based on the original evil elocuting toothbrush-moustached caricature). Unanimity and conflict, alas, are incompatible bedfellows. Conflict is much better served when there are pluralistic views. The global Rothschild empire is recruiting footsoldiers to support the Horseman of War. They also have footsoldiers marching behind the other three horsemen. Destination Apocalypse.

    All opinions are mine. Take'em and bake'em in your own oven. cheeef


    ps: Not as important, but there is a third reason. I want to expose the frail construction of Chico's sociopath detector (probably purchased at Radio Shack) ... a detector that has found an implied sociopath in yours truly, and an implied empath in Hitler. Proving Hitler's sociopathy is easier than proving my own empathy (to strangers on the internet) ... with both discoveries primed to smash Chico's Radio Shack measuring equipment into atom-sized chunks. I make no apologies in that regard. denz4

  8. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Lots of gross errors here, Zook. You ignore the meaning behind the speeches, the communication taking place, and instead concentrate on appearances. This is exactly how sociopaths tend to see human interactions. It doesn't occur to you that "the structure and theatrics" could be genuine, actually derived from empathy and other emotions normal people feel, and not some stage act designed to deceive and manipulate. You incorrectly imply that all men in leadership positions are con-artists, when sometimes there are exceptions. The fact that Hitler has been so falsely vilified by the Zionist Jewish sociopaths is a strong clue that he may have been that exception. And indeed, that is what my research into Hitler's life has uncovered, much to my surprise as well, which is why I was led to conclude Hitler was not at all the sociopath the Allied propaganda painted him to be.

    I should also mention that the situation was similar regarding you. It was much to my surprise that my interactions with you over the years led me to conclude that you were not at all the normal person you painted yourself to be. I had no expectation that you would turn out to be a sociopath. It was such a surprise that I actively resisted the conclusion for quite some time, thinking I had to be wrong. Yes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, until there could no longer be any doubt, just as I did when evaluating Hitler. In both cases, I was going against popular perceptions, so I had to be meticulous and thorough.

    It's really quite strange how things turn out sometimes.
  9. why do we still talk about hitler any way ? the movement he started ran out of control and obligated him to more war then he wanted
  10. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    The preponderance of evidence against the hypothesis of a self-made independent Hitler rising to prominence, follows. There is no specific order of importance, but let me start with Exhibit A. I will make subsequent posts for the remaining exhibits (not by any means exhaustive) that make it quite clear that Hitler was a puppet strongman being financed and manipulated by his Rothschild puppetmasters.

    Exhibit A: Norman Dodd's exposee of the minutes of a Carnegie Endowment Fund (CEF) meeting held in 1909 ... to be later established as the Carnegie Endowment For International Peace (CEFIP) in 1910.

    Well, in the face of that sincere conviction of Katherine's I went out of my way not to prejudice her in any way, but I did explain to her that she couldn't possibly cover 50 years of written minutes in two weeks, so she would have to do what we call spot reading. I blocked out certain periods of time to concentrate on, and off she went to New York. She came back at the end of two weeks with the following on dictaphone tapes:

    We are now at the year 1908, which was the year that the Carnegie Foundation began operations. In that year, the trustees, meeting for the first time, raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year in a very learned fashion. The question is: “Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?” And they conclude that no more effective means than war to that end is known to humanity.
    So then, in 1909, they raised the second question and discussed it, namely: “How do we involve the United States in a war?”
    Well, I doubt at that time if there was any subject more removed from the thinking of most of the people of this country than its involvement in a war. There were intermittent shows in the Balkans, but I doubt very much if many people even knew where the Balkans were. Then, finally, they answered that question as follows: “We must control the State Department.” That very naturally raises the question of how do we do that? And they answer it by saying: “We must take over and control the diplomatic machinery of this country.” And, finally, they resolve to aim at that as an objective.
    Then time passes, and we are eventually in a war, which would be World War I. At that time they record on their minutes a shocking report in which they dispatched to President Wilson a telegram, cautioning him to see that the war does not end too quickly.
    Finally, of course, the war is over. At that time their interest shifts over to preventing what they call a reversion of life in the United States to what it was prior to 1914 when World War I broke out. At that point they came to the conclusion that, to prevent a reversion, “we must control education in the United States.” They realize that that's a pretty big task. It is too big for them alone, so they approach the Rockefeller Foundation with the suggestion that that portion of education which could be considered domestic be handled by the Rockefeller Foundation and that portion which is international should be handled by the Endowment. They then decide that the key to success of these two operations lay in the alteration of the teaching of American history.
    So they approach four of the then-most prominent teachers of American history in the country – people like Charles and Mary Byrd – and their suggestion to them is: will they alter the manner in which they present their subject? And they got turned down flat. So they then decide that it is necessary for them to do as they say, “build our own stable of historians.”


    As we can see in the above, the people at the Carnegie Endowment were busy thinking up ways to involve America in a war (in Europe, to be specific) so that they can change the civilization there and make immense material profit. To this, they not only orchestrated the wars (as per Gutle Schnapper's quote boasting that there would not be wars had her sons not wanted them) ... but wanted to make sure that the wars they created would not end too soon. Russia was targeted because the Czar was not agreeable to the Zionist bankster's plans to establish a central bank in Russia ... Germany was targeted because it posed an independent threat to the Rothschild-controlled fiat money system.

    JAN 18 1871

    The Prussian/German victory over France brings about the unification of the German states under Kaiser (King) Wilhelm I of Prussia. The establishment of the German Empire ends the "balance of power" that had been created with the Congress of Vienna in 1815. Germany is now the main economic power of continental Europe with one of the most powerful and professional armies in the world.

    Meanwhile, back in England, the Rothschilds plot to check and control the new German nation. Although Jewish bankers will thrive in Germany, Germany (like Czar Alexander's Russia), has the capacity to shape its own destiny and thwart the ambitions of the "City of London". Not only is German politics outside of Rothschild's total control, but the fact that several German Royals are intermarried with British nobility complicates ‘the City’s” ability to menace Germany with British power.

    It will be 48 years before the new German nation can be brought under the thumb of The New World Order. But the long-range plan goes into effect immediately. Rothschild Zionist agent and future (as well as ex) "British" Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli plots against both Germany and Russia.

    In short, WW1 and WW2 were in the planning well before and with/without Hitler's emergence in the antebellum before WW2 ... he just happened to be in position to be the perfect puppet patsy by the time the need for WW2 emerged (as per the long range global plans). Without the infusion of Rothschild money, Hitler wouldn't have even made it past the first stage. So the argument of a self-made man and avenger of the oppressed people ... is laughable right from the start.

  11. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Good observation, Rose. The archetypal politician doing his thing ... offering a slice of prosperity pie for everyone. Pie composition: 95% pie shell, 3% filling; 2% steam.

    Hitler gained recognition (for better and for worse) as a politician. He was almost invisible as an artist and draftsman. Politicians and empathy, of course, are a rare mix. Politicians and expedience, a more common mix. Indeed, there are three job descriptions that are readily interchangeable: the politician, the actor, and the used car salesman. Hitler would have been exemplary in any of those three roles ... as a politician, he was second to none. The rule of politicians that reach the stature of Hitler are that they are very sharply focused. They set a target and nothing can move them off course, short of divine intervention. Of course, divinity itself was being calculated into the packaging of Hitler ... so, we're now dealing with a phenomenon loosely referred to as the Messiah. Suffice to say, there's never been a case of a self-made messiah carrying genuine empathy. Most that have presented themselves as such were suffering from some sort of mental illness ... delusions of grandeur is one type of mental illness. Granted, there have been many cases of collective-made messiahs throughout the long history of human experiment: Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, Shirdi Sai Baba, Gandhi ... Justin Bieber ... to name a few. But self-made larger-than-life luminaries are invariably small insignificant men standing very close to the light source and projecting a grotesquely-sized image of themselves. And this goes against the mold of classical empaths, who stand far away from the light source and who cast very small shadows. Empaths understand not to hog the light for themselves, as it were. IMO.

    Nor I a student of history until after 2006 when I dropped into the rabbit bore after the attacks on 9/11/2001 came under new inspection by Loose Change. Loose Change itself is a propaganda piece, but I am still grateful to the producers because their production allowed me to investigate those attacks for myself. And one popcorn of intrigue led to another ... and now, I'm fairly up to speed on how this planet operates ... and the sinister organization behind all the wars and crimes of the past three centuries. Hitler is just a bit player in all this intrigue. A megalomaniac used by the Rothschild bankster empire to control a region and its people, and when the occasion demands to set these regions against each other - not dissimilar to other such exploited megalomaniacs/strongmen of recent memory such as Saddam, Qadaffi, Mao, Pinochet, Mbarak, Idi Amin, Mugabe, Menghistu, Marcos ... the list is long ... all the way into the western imperialist complex and its string puppets (Obama, Putin, Clinton, Bush, Shrub, Blair, Merkel, Sarkoczy, etc.). The template of puppet megalomaniac is a true and tried one.
    and the the tribal Rothschilds are laughing all the way to the central bank with it.

    It is hard next to impossible to discuss any topic without mentioning the overarching tribal conspiracy <------- that is one unassailable fact that my research has unearthed. The topic of Hitler is no different. I will reveal Hitler's puppet strings; all in good time and sequence.

    As for the video above, I wasn't interested so much in what Hitler said in those speeches ... as I was in the grandly-staged structure and the attending theatrics. The structure and theatrics are not conducive to genuine empathy. Even the appearance of empathy is badly damaged by such display, IMO. Certainly, if I had landed from Mars and heard someone barking out loud like that in front of tens of thousands, my first inclination would be to reach into my first aid kit (what, you thought only Earthlings carried them??) ... and see whether I couldn't find something to soothe the poor creature's nerves and excited disposition.

  12. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    An element in his speeches I found to be an interesting juxtaposition with trickle down economic propaganda was his position that the poor should not expect any help from the rich. But, that the poor should unify and take care of each other sharing what little they had. In that way, his rhetoric impressed me as being reminescent of campaign speeches appealing to the empathy of the masses an almost "new age" way, while at the same time promising upper classes what they wanted.

    Hitler is often mentioned as a master in NLP literature: Numerous exquisitely delivered glorious statements that can not possibly be disagreed with until the intended "seed" is thrown into the tilled "soil" without question.

    I have never been a much of a student of history, or wars, so please explain if I have misunderstood.
  13. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Yes, he promised a lot to the German people. Then, again, the guy on TV that made a mint from selling slapchoppers promised a lot, too ... I doubt many would have bought the slapchopper were it displayed in a shopping complex store self with limited advertising. Capturing the imagination of the buyer is the first art of the sale, as it were.

    "Get to the curtains, my man, and let the sunshine in!"

    If Hitler - the banksters' man in Germany (I will bring enough evidence in subsequent posts to leave no doubt about Hitler's authenticity or lack thereof) - had any chance of appealing to the Germans, then his first art of the sale is to give the Germans what they wanted, not necessarily what they needed. I seriously doubt Germany needed to solve its problems via Hitler's vision of change. It had problems, to be sure, problems created by the Zionist banksters, to be equally sure ... but Hitler's vision appealed to the base denominators in the human condition. Hitler planned to unleash Germanic tribal instincts to confront the bankster empire's tribal agenda. The only logical outcome of Hitler's vision then was internecine conflict. Keep this in mind, for Norman Dodd will weigh in shortly with his findings.

    Very true. His target audience was German. Selling the same stuff to nonGermans would not have been very artful. Definitely manipulation in play, IMO.

  14. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Did you even read the subtitles, Zook? Did you even comprehend Hitler's message? It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't do either one, as that has been your modus operandi in the past, and you have been caught doing it a number of times at United People.

    Hitler's constant theme is the unification of all the German people, except for the Marxists (Zionist Jewish sociopaths), who wanted the German people divided and conquered. That's right, Hitler wanted a united people, and a thriving people, and he knew he had to kick out the sociopaths to accomplish it. And he created that united nation, to the enormous benefit of the German people, in only six years. From 1933 to 1939, he turned Germany completely around, from a pathetic basket-case of a nation -- thoroughly crushed in the Zionist Jewish orchestrated World War I, enslaved by the Zionist Jewish orchestrated Treaty of Versailles, and then decimated by Zionist Jewish bankster orchestrated hyperinflation -- into the envy of the western world. He had the near-total support of his people, and rightfully so. He did this despite the declaration of global economic war by the Zionist Jewish leadership against Germany in 1933, six years before World War II, which was also orchestrated by the Zionist Jewish sociopaths!

    Hitler was Time Magazine's Man of the Year in 1938. Now why would that be?

    Every single speech of Hitler's that I have listened to, and it's important to listen to the whole speech to get the true context, has been about getting the Germans to cooperate among themselves and build themselves up for their benefit. Is that the way a sociopath leads his country? If it is, what went wrong in the United States under every president since JFK?

    You don't have a clue of what you are talking about here. You are simply trying to cash in on the relentless brain-washing the whole world has been subjected to by the Zionist Jewish sociopaths who have run the world unopposed ever since Hitler was crushed and the German people were nearly genocided out of existence.

    You liar! This is all part of your agenda to overturn my assessment of you as a sociopath. In other words, you're doing this for selfish reasons! Your plan was hatched at UP when I came out with my evidence that Hitler was not a sociopath as painted by the Allied propaganda. You saw that as your best opportunity to discredit my knowledge of sociopathy and thereby remove the stigma of having been exposed as a sociopath by Chicodoodoo. But guess what? I'm not backing down on either assessment, no matter what the polls measure (because your poll is essentially a measure of our anti-Hitler brainwashing). I have the research and evidence to back both of my assessments, while you clearly have nothing but BS to back yours. Your selection of these excerpts from Hitler's speeches shows exactly how shallow your understanding of this issue is. You should be ashamed, but you never will be, and I understand exactly why -- because sociopaths have no shame.

    No shame, a liar, selfish, two-faced, conniving, arrogant, over-the-top risky behavior, constant game-playing, hypocrisy, truth-twisting, deceitful, and manipulative! And you think this poll will convince us that you are not a sociopath?!
  15. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Glad to hear this. Should be an interesting thread. shirloc
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  16. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I have never heard him speak with subtitles before.
    He was quite the orator/cheerleader for the German race.
    I understand more clearly why they were enamored with him.
    He neglected to mention his plans for Non-Germans though, didn't he?
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  17. UncleZook

    UncleZook Member

    Here's some video clips of Hitler in the middle of some of his larger-than-life oratorial deliveries.

    Suppose you landed from Mars and never heard of Hitler and these were your very first views of him, How would he strike you? As an empath? A sociopath? Something in between? Or would you need more evidence before you can make an evaluation of his psychology?

    I will develop this thread because I genuinely want to know how people react when confronted with larger-than-life figures in the middle of larger-than-life monologues.