THE FREEDOMS OF MAN

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  3. the freedoms of man......

    i am at a public center
    a large indoor area
    with an equally large fountain
    in the middle of the restaurants

    it is near my main office
    so i come here regularly
    for lunch and a quick walk
    if the weather is unpleasant

    every so often
    a few sparrows
    will land at the fountain
    and use it as a bird bath
    as well as a water source

    it is quite fascinating
    for contrast sake

    the architecture is stark and sterile
    very modern
    very unnatural

    and to see birds
    indoors
    doing as they do

    it catches the quiet mind
    like a red sunset
    or a passing airplane

    there are crowds here
    always busy
    always hurrying
    always dressed in a manner
    that reflects this

    most walk passed the birds
    without a glance

    some stop and look
    for a brief moment
    then carry on again
    as if nothing caught their eye
    to begin with

    and some even
    take a seat
    next to the fountain
    observing the sight
    snapping a few photos
    and carry on their business
    or have their lunch
    right there

    and a few
    sit and watch
    both the birds
    and the reactions
    of the passersby
    finding it both amusing
    and alarming
     
  4. The freedoms of man matter to no one.
    They are a total fabrication of the mind to deal with the reality of incarceration.
    Your always incarcerated , when you get up in the morning.
    Most of the rules of your incarceration you accept , even agree with.
    One of them for instance is do not harm children.
    Yet collectively we are doing so and know it.

    Rules are not written down and carried around in a book , by everyone.
    Some rules we make up.
    They are not written anywhere...they do not have to be written down , by a real human.
    We need no reminder.
    They just won't do these things as they ultimately lead to reaction.etc etc..

    The police were put in place to protect rich people against poor people.

    Simple.

    And they are still doing it.

    Now , are you rich or poor.

    What side of the fence are you.
    Really.
    What YOU see as poor , might be another mans unattainable dream.

    Who decides where the line is.
    The poor , of course...

    So if things in the world are owned by who sits on them...

    I have a different understanding of wealth money and power.
    I have watched with quiet disgust at all.
    Both sides.
    I don't like money at all , most don't when they think about it...
    But it's not the money itself , that's just paper , of course.

    It's the freedom it allows.
    I don't hate freedom.

    Do I hate freedom ?
    No, i don't .
    But then I understand there has been none for thousands of years.

    Since money..

    But money is freedom...

    Anyway , who cares..
     
  5. Oh I nearly forgot...the first name..

    I know how the loveys like a "project" name ...so in there , honour here's the first name ..

    PROJECT LONG SHANKS

    We will remove the thread from public view now , this is to protect the posters ,

    To all the people waiting..
    We will register you when you have been spoken to.
    If you remain on the "waiting list" for a week ...you without contacting us....you will be deleted.
    Anonymous COWARDS need never apply..
    If you use a proxy , don't bother even bothering.
    If you come in on a network such as tor etc , forget it , lol.
    No donations taken , or will ever be taken by this site..
     
  6. So I will give you a name , then you can find what you can about it..
    This will be a good game , to play and to spectate.

    This has two advantages immediately for me , I'm trying to fink of some for u.lol.

    Ahh I know , I'll do what the guru's , I will put we in front of the advantages..

    We will find out through varying people and points of view what is available on the web now , before I give the names.
    We can then have a discussion about what you have found and what it all means .

    So that the we's done..

    Now the me .
    I will give you (up till now) un heard of names and projects , etc..
    This will tell me what is available to the public view...without spending hours trying to find sift through and collate..
    Your intellect will do this auto style , the best links will come edited and ready Sussed.

    I will take those views and what is available , then use them to fill in the gaps between , or clear up disinformation from what ever quarter . I will then back up (what to then is) the hypothesis with foot notes from various documentation both known and unknown.

    You can then decide which direction we take with the outcome(what subject next) I'm sure a route will manifest itself.
     
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  7. We now change tack , due to your very incisive minds , I'm sure most think you are privy to all my thoughts and such.
    Little do they know eh!.
    Anyway, it's now getting sticky for me , so I will use good sense.

    I have no interest in anyone who is not going to help me.

    We also have the "Mic" problem..

    Ours is not big enough yet.
    I have a number in mind (as you do know) we are only a quarter there.

    Plagiarism is rife among bigger fish than me (I also have no need to be a fish).
    So I'm certainly not going to fuel half baked versions of the facts I know reformed to fit there theory hypothesis or book or fantasy.

    It's the worst kind of disinformation..
    They keep trying to cover the track to me , disguising it as anything but what it is..
    They call by names I do not use myself , this was after I had told people my name , both my real and "nickname" ..
    It's an old ploy.

    Then because they dam well know I'm ligit , because of info they have from me you don't, they dole it out as there own , bent to fit there shit.

    Inherent truths are powerful.
    They see that.

    So they keep me here as resource , while playing down anything and everything to do with me..

    Which I don't care about , it keeps my day less crowded.
    But it's the disinformation I do not want , a little knowledge is very dangerous , it can give the wrong person the strings of control.

    So , that can't happen.

    This part that comes next is the real deal...I want people to get it as they go , that is important..

    Then the copycats will look just as they are , wannabe weirdos. Look at me , look at me , lol.

    So , we are going to leave things like the cockney translater on the outside (cos gossip is all the morons want) .

    And some other things that are read.
    We may even dole out the tenth post or something along those lines , to pick up stragglers.

    But these certain threads will be members only.

    Everything will remain as is otherwise,

    In reality , probably just three threads.

    In the members area , it will be copyrighted , not for money , but for protection.

    Against the unworthy liars , that perpetuate the problem with there household bills.


    [ lol.

    Or you might prefer this mix , loooooooool.
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  8. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    So early 1992...
    http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1992

    A knowledgable person :) once told me there have been two "real" crop circles.
    Research to determine if one might have arrived around that time finally resulted in a good archive site:
    http://www.cropcirclecenter.com/

    I was thinking of this one. But, it appeared a bit early for this estimate, occurring in mid July 1991.
    The fact the most extensive archive site uses it for a logo is interesting.

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    I would like to know exactly which two were real.
     
  9. It is estimated to have begun 23.25 years ago.
    Not sure , it is presumed , due to nature of signal carrier. Not enough is known of the capabilities.
     
  10. It is not known if the two things are related.
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  11. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    If the answer to George's questions are affirmative, I would like to know:

    Regarding a 2.75+ year duration for something to arrive...
    At what point does this count begin, or did it begin?
    Is this the amount of time it takes for a communication from "mother" to arrive?
    Or, does "arrival" refer to something more physical than a communication?
     
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  12. thank you ATTICUS

    it is monday again
    and i do have a habit of disrupting the first day of the week
    lol

    two more questions
    if you have a moment

    are the geocaches related in any way to the answer of the puzzle?

    who is the "other mother?"
     
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  13. beans

    beans Member

    It's good and certainly worth watching.
     
  14. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

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  15. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I have been wanting to see that movie, Jamie. What is your review of it?
     
  16. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    From The Cockney Translater theatrr
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  17. beans

    beans Member

    We were watching Citizenfour last night and the comment was made "The way people used to describe freedom and liberty is how people today describe privacy and with the same breath they say privacy is dead."
     
  18. Could a woman give us a view on this , a woman from the church maybe , lol.
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  19. Some music to listen to while you read ?


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    The lid.



    I can give you an example of the lid itself in action today now , this is a statement.

    You may disagree.
    Good.

    That's that cleared up then.

    Do you have children ?

    If your a parent , you will understand the responsibility to your children about there world experience when they are younger , you're aware of this on an immense plethora of levels..
    One of those levels is as a Human Adult Being...

    Now I'm sure different areas of this plethora are more important to some than others..

    But for me it was that one.Just to be as straight with them as I could , but , without removing the possibilities of wonderment .

    That would be a terrible thing to do , the discovery of something new is as a result of that imagination , dream , wonderment.

    That to me would be a crime.

    If you do that to Any kid , not just mine.
    We are a village and we have responsibilities as such.

    This all presumes the logical balanced mind of course.

    So , we are told by "the powers that we gave" that they are going to diligently pursue the best and logical course , no one man is in charge....

    No one man over another.

    The truth for your children.

    The truth.

    Well you were a child.

    Do you know?

    How do you?

    Did you go to a better school than the person next to you?

    Is that why?

    Are you lucky enough to have a genius scholar in your family ?

    Is that how?

    Or are you just better at understanding things than anyone else , but don't like to show off?

    Is that , it ?

    We expect our children to be taught the basics.

    Then to make a discovery of their own , what subjects and how when who should obviously be left up to them...

    Surely that is common sense?
    To be on hand with help on subjects that are real tools , 2+2 IS IMPORTANT..

    Tools , to , discover..

    If we give them a tool such as this , we are obviously sure of the tools nature it's use.

    I mean , a hammer with no head ? Of course not.

    Yes , now we look.

    School.
    Education.

    It starts in the home in honesty.

    Then it goes elsewhere.

    One of the tools that is forced on these innocents is religion.

    We teach depending on where we are born..the dainty myth of control.

    This is not a tool.

    It is not proven to be a tool.

    If I hand you a hammer , and point at the nail started in the wood , it would not take you long to prove its worth. To yourself.

    There is no point to "not" using the hammer as soon as you know of it's existence because another "human" being showed you it.

    The "human" does not have to prove the hammer , it just shows you and is no longer needed unless requested.

    It is not the hammers use that proves it's worth , it's your knowledge of its worth.

    I do not need to prove that religion is not a tool , the religion should be shown to be true...a tool......if it is .......there would be no need for you to prove it...from that point.

    So from the first conception of this proof , the need of the bishop is negated
    The role of bishop would never have become needed..


    But we have them , I pick on not one but all , all the funny hats.

    You are taught as a truth , you are not true.

    You are liars.

    You have infiltrated the educational system.

    Our VERY lives with your control mechanism.

    You are in our governments.

    You have many names , but you know I know who you are.
    And what you are.

    You have become many things.
    To many men , both logical and irrational alike.

    You use your fantastic tools of lies.
    To control all.

    It is not the job of the "human" to prove a negative thing ..
    It is not there.

    You say it is.
    So the burden is on you.

    Get your unproven tools out of the tool box.

    If I say it's a hammer show me without talking.

    You are the lid.

    You do it for energy , the control of the power .

    Any power.

    I am going to name you all.

    One by one in sequence.

    We do not ask , so do not tell.

    We walk , you talk.

    You stop us and say it is there.

    We do not ask , because there is no need to.

    You were the first industry.

    You bred all the rest.

    To protect yourselves.

    You are slightly different to a human.

    And you do not belong here.

    Or should I say NOW.





    Your next argument will be:-

    People would die if they are not managed , you need us.

    No , we don't , you need us.

    The realisation is on it's way...

    It is inevitable , as the "juice" runs out.

    How you gonna get control of the new "juice" when it's free.

    Your gonna make sure you have to be in the process.

    The problem is , to many minds now watch....

    You can no longer prove your worth..

    I have seen you in person you know this...

    I know this is the part where you show yourself , your teeth.

    Go ahead.
     
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    We are as a species approaching an epoch.

    There is a disturbance of this perception..

    I have read much from the people who profess to know.

    It is clear from what I have read they are not in possession of all the pieces.

    A perturbation , is the cause of a disturbance....

    The perturbance takes the guise of a lid.

    I have watched much learned men and women describe the land and terrain this lid is placed upon , but none can identify the hand that closes it.


    But first ...

    Quantum mechanics.

    Some brilliant minds , saw a shadow.

    Or a glimpse of a shadow leaving the room , as one put it.

    Four of the minds corresponded about it in private letters.

    These letters still exist.

    Two of the minds were Einstein and Schroedinger.

    A quote from Einstein made publicly in person , before it was ever published by him or anyone else.
    He said it , out loud first...

    "Anyone who becomes seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that there is a spirit manifest in the laws of the universe"

    Alchemy reborn.

    I will show you what I know to be true , I don't care what you do with it.
    It's not mine to hold , this I know.

    It does not take a guru.
    It does not take a seminar and a video about the seminar.
    It does not cost anything.

    It has nothing to do with any paradigm or understanding of it.

    But it's there , no doubt.

    It may take science to explain , but it is not any science.

    Inherent truths cannot be denied.

    You will see.

    But not yet.
    As we arrive.
    As others do.

    While you play at things , others have been busy...

    The ufology of fools is now obsolete.

    As some have known for 26 years.

    Some have suffered wringing there hands to adjust there systems to match..

    But all are meek in the face of this.

    No false prophecy.

    No.

    Just the time and date.

    But first an education for the members.

    Not the users.

    I never cast pearls before swine , I have shown to my friends what that causes.

    No.


    And not a channeller In site , lol.

    Charlatans one and all.
    Munchies as we call them...


    Munchies.
     
  21. if these objects are "being dug up somewhere as we speak"
    one could presume they are large objects
    quite deep in the earth

    and water erosion patterns
    coupled with these ideas

    would make them very, very old
    placed eons ago
    by a group of someone's
    who were vastly intelligent
    when chronological history
    shows we were more primitive



    with geocaching
    many people are given clues
    as to where the prize is hidden
    usually a container
    filled with semi-valuable contents



    i would ask

    when were the two objects buried?
    No real solid idea , but over 30k ago.
    who received the clues as to the geocaches' placement?
    Three men at the same time , it is thought ...well within in a week ...none spoke for a bit about it.(not sure what to do).
    what were the clues?
    Sat/pics from the combined sciences , that didn't share there findings , but they all came to them because of there combined hobby , interested .
    has it taken a long time to solve the clues, or has it been a matter of waiting on technology?
    Neither , as far as the question goes.
    what is intended to be inside the geocaches, making them a worthy investment by those digging them up?
    No one knows , they are to huge to "dig up" , massive.
    why are the objects placed on the big mantles?
    That is the good question , they would be due to there make up.
    do the objects have a purpose other than simply being geocaches?
    Most definitely , they were given that "nickname" , that's all it is . But it is very appropriate .

    They answered!
    Seemed happy to.
     
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  22. I'll go ask , lol.
    Way to give me a Monday .....Ohwell.
     
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  23. if these objects are "being dug up somewhere as we speak"
    one could presume they are large objects
    quite deep in the earth

    and water erosion patterns
    coupled with these ideas

    would make them very, very old
    placed eons ago
    by a group of someone's
    who were vastly intelligent
    when chronological history
    shows we were more primitive



    with geocaching
    many people are given clues
    as to where the prize is hidden
    usually a container
    filled with semi-valuable contents



    i would ask

    when were the two objects buried?
    who received the clues as to the geocaches' placement?
    what were the clues?
    has it taken a long time to solve the clues, or has it been a matter of waiting on technology?
    what is intended to be inside the geocaches, making them a worthy investment by those digging them up?
    why are the objects placed on the big mantles?
    do the objects have a purpose other than simply being geocaches?
     
  24. Your not free because of the questions you have to ask , there third grade.
    I'm not a teacher and your not a kid, so why ask ?

    We are discussing the relevance of want against need , serving and service .....
    Like it or not , we all have a boundary around us , it's a natural one....
    Some have a larger one than others because of many things , this is what is in question , where your freedom encroaches on another ..

    Not what the dictionary says....
    That the lid functioning......working , in action......

    Now look at your question again , does my freedom not come into the phraseology ...?
     
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  25. Danielle

    Danielle Member

    So... when is man not free exactly?
    How is freedom defined? Physically? Choice? Thought?
     
  26. Let's introduce him...
    He is old and wise , his particular field is "the true freedoms of man"
    Which is ironic because he can't leave the room he is in these days.

    He has agreed to answer the "odd" question , in my experience with him , that means the ones he finds interesting , or if he has had his favourite lunch and is in a good mood.
    Either or..
    Which again , considering the subject matter , irony develops.
     
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  27. My intelligent friend who is slight of nature says..


    This is being dug up somewhere as we speak , the geocache from the other mother ....
    Water erosion is correct
    Two are buried , one on each of the big mantles


    He says more , I will dole it out here in increments as we dole out video of what he says .
     
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  28. Changing the subject back....did you notice that , bet shezbeth did?

    But the names

    The old stone boys....that's a nickname.....

    The old.......stone........boys....

    EE

    Soon you will see ...... Lol.

    I am afraid I have tricked everyone....but the trick is not apparent...geocache......may be at play.

    We are going to point to.....the geocache.....
    The freedoms of man!
     
  29. Fiery red

    Chilly blue

    How do you know did someone tell you

    If they did , it is from the idd

    What they never tell is it goes with a smell

    Not every pallet can smell the mallet

    Before there dead , from a blow to the head

    If you can see and smell the taste , you can relax , no need for haste.
     
  30. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    Colors have a definite feeling for me...
    when observing a recent interchange
    i felt a firely hot red on the left side
    a chilly blue on the right
    a yes to first question