I have been trying to follow and understand the Peter Joseph quandary on the "Hello All and "Sociopaths Thread" as it was, after all, me that randomly tossed Joseph's name out simply because several years ago I spent a lot of invested time into his message, vids, public Q&A sessions, interviews, movement, and came away convinced the man was genuine. So off the top of my head I used him as an example reference of an activist working toward principles of equality; very similar to Jacques Fresco who he partnered with for some time and from memory Fresco was a valid mentor to Joseph and even though, also from memory, they had a time of conflict I do believe that was resolved.
For a Global Awareness Campaign to present the concept of sociopathic leadership being a thorn in the side of global activism it must start with individuals who have a strong humanitarian conviction that equality must replace inequality; and of course there are literally millions of people that have this perspective which is encouragingly coupled to some intelligent proposals for a transition on the table. My vision is to engage individuals/groups of this mindset to consider, investigate, and explore the sociopathic concept from a predominantly objective lens rather than the more common emotional knee-jerk reaction - which in my view sometimes simply equates to "it's all about me" and when this happens the birds-eye view of our global crisis is diminished. Those activists that will be inclined to see validity in this psychological barrier, (and from my research to date I have no doubt there are quite a few), will move to the next phase of brainstorming a media campaign to bring this awareness to the public. This will then provide an opportunity to generate global discussion amongst numerous disciplines and households. Proactive resolutions will then erupt forth from this global discussion/debate and some of our greatest heart-centered thinkers, professionals, and specialists around the globe will creatively find ways of dealing with the problem of sociopathic logic/leadership as it will be identified as being a fundamental barrier to their resolutions for global equality, fairness, peace, and creative pursuits.
Rose you made a point of bringing to light the potential that Joseph could have connections with some of the people you have unfortunately collaborated with in the past and presented cryptic circumstantial evidence. Investigating someone a GAC team could potentially be making contact with in the future is a very valid exercise. My failing was to not respond to this because I had already filtered Joseph from my own perspective therefore did not give your assumptions much credence so I was waiting for you to provide a less cryptic and more detailed analysis to work with; for if you had uncovered a solid potential current buddy-ship between Joseph and Stephen then he would be removed from the list. "Current" connection being the decider for even if Stephen claimed to and can produce proof that he had discussions with Peter in the past, perhaps because of a bait offering of project funds for Joseph to continue his work in music and activism, it would be all that is needed from Stephen's (and/or Stephen Imitator) "fan clubs" to grandiose their deluded positions by attempting to ride on the coat tails of hard working, intelligent activists by deceptively claiming a name to fame.
Due to time constraints I am a fair way off yet from co-developing with interested and future members a written proposal/invitation to send out for canvassing a GAC team, so this issue is also not a biggie at this point from my perspective, but I do genuinely sympathize with your concerns as they are seriously very personal to you at this time. In hindsight if I had picked another activist off the top of my head we all may well have avoided this uncomfortable confusion.
Also whilst re-visiting posts trying to make sense of all this I happened upon the Hello All Post #123 below, which I completely missed and if I had absorbed it I would have attempted to respond earlier; my bad as this was when I was recovering from a bout of pneumonia, but is no excuse for my sloppy attention. I do, however, think your suggestion to move the inception of a GAC to Chico's United People forum is wise advice and I will heed it.
So, to recap, Gemma brought in the idea of putting together a Global Awareness project about Sociopathy. The idea seemed exciting and I was all for it, Then, she posted Joseph's anti-capitalistic writings. You immediately stated "I could work with Joseph". I have now described why I could not. If that is to be the project, perhaps you should continue at United People. I am very serious that I would rather have nothing at all going on than be involved in something I do not fully support.
You may certainly continue to speak about anything here. My participation is not necessary.
I have spent considerable time investigating UP and find that although it is littered with sociopathic vitriol Chico has convincingly maintained consistency and clarity, (for years) which has resulted in an educational (learning) environment covering sociopathic opinions and behaviours. I believe this would be far more conducive to global GAC supporters than Inphinet due to David et al's unrelenting, escalating vitriol, which has certainly not nosedived to the depths of, for example Stephen's venom yet, but is dangerously leaning that way. I find this difficult to have to wade through so can only imagine how off putting and/or confusing this would be to others. I persist though as I have been using it as a learning curve to observe Chico in real time, but quite frankly there is enough demonstration of his skill at UP for anyone serious enough to invest their time in understanding sociopathic writing techniques from a hands-on perspective; and it does need time to investigate as the deceptive writings in sociopathic posts consistently sways back and forth, back and forth, giving newbie glances that constant seesaw uncertainty as to who is the true manipulator.
I wish to also take this opportunity to thank you for your warm welcome here Rose and to commend you on your difficult journey over the past several years. I was drawn to Inphinet because I admired your resolve to remove Stephen et al from positions of influence, (which to me is no different to positions of power), as well as observing Chico's resolve and strength of character in being able to hold his ground amidst innumerable assaults from disingenuous, narcissistic, sociopathic individuals. Posters who ridiculously claim to be proactive toward bettering humanity whilst doing nothing more than deluding themselves into being great intellectual thinkers, researchers and contributors that the world desperately needs to hear from simply because they know how to regurgitate what they have read or heard whilst peppering in a few opinions at the same time - everyone can do this, it does not prove or demonstrate behavioural intelligence one iota. As I have been reading, observing and following sociopathic behavioural patterns on a few forums for quite some time now, along with having my own fair share of experiencing and witnessing trauma at the hands of sociopaths, I now make "behavioural intelligence", not "opinionated intelligence" my personal measure for those I wish to collaborate with.
I will use resident Chico as an example. Two areas of passionate disdain for Chico that I have interpreted from his on-line legacy are censorship and sociopathic leadership. In attempts to do something about his convictions he experimented with an all-inclusive members moderated forum and valiantly kept himself in the firing line of sociopathic individuals in order to understand them; which is, of course, one of the things anyone seriously wishing to study anything would do i.e. get out of the text books and live amongst the study. (A majority of people simply disengage-walk out of a sociopathic arena in seconds leaving the sociopaths to fight amongst themselves for ownership of the room they just cleared).
The sociopaths however, what have they attempted to accomplish that is intentional for the good of humanity? Being parasitical, egotistical, and destructive on other people's creative pursuits and subsequently clearing out good hearted genuine people from forums so they can dump their incoherent useless data contributions just to clock up view hits! Wow what a bloody victory! Woohoo way to go for humanity! These people actually brag about their conquests before the reality hits them that woops, now there's no one left to harass or to read their ramblings. No problem though for they will just enjoy their hunt for another room whilst waiting for the opportunity to return to a previous room whenever fresh blood arrives.
So thank you once again Rose for your hard work and commitment that provides people the opportunity to connect, whether it be for activism, friendship, or any other pursuit. I truly wish you all the very best and who knows, maybe we can say g'day again someday should you choose to visit UP.
Take care
Gemma
Last edited: Aug 12, 2016
