This Election, Human Change and Evolution and the Future.

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  1. david

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    There has never been anything novel, in the past, about a particular candidate making an appearance in the election. Most of my childhood was spent watching men perceived as decent, entering the election, until decision time came and everyone got to hold their nose, and vote for the less evil individual. When we talk about the ruling elite, whatever we perceive them to be, the primary information sought, after wanting secret knowledge, is to know how powerful this elite class is, and how much control can they bring to bare upon us.

    Part of what I have sought to do in my research is to corroborate details which give a glimpse into the questions raised above. Yet, there often seem to be forces at work that shape things, much as an invisible hand. These forces almost seem to act as a process oriented, knowledge based system, giving people what they are ready for. Of course this is a judgement... One cannot confirm, or deny the intangible, but we can look at results and analyze their impact upon us.

    This election is a watershed. From looking at various accounts, hearing different individuals subject to powerful groups in the government, etc...it would appear that no one anticipated the impact the internet would have on the world. Predictive models, and other such systematic analysis perhaps cannot be faulted for not knowing that people would learn so fast, to measure the strength of egalitarian action via the net. Today as I write this there are artists making a fortune giving concerts with no promoter what-so-ever....rather social media gives the information to the fans and Utube and other efforts market the work of the performer. Capital sharing sites like GoFundMe allow for people to market ideas with no need to appeal to the venture capitalist funders. These sites have made a tremendous impact on our potential to share resources outside the range of the ruling elite.

    This election is the the other unanticipated event. This election goes right along with the new internet paradigm... both systems have developed as a real force for change in the world. In this election there is only one candidate representing the old guard. Donald Trump, whatever one may think of him, is a protest candidate. He is not old money, in fact much has been made of the fact that he does not even have that much money. His actions singularly have changed the REpublican party, even pushing it to the center in many respects. Trump's rise has never happened before, whether one thinks this is by design, or haphanstanz. meanwhile Bernie Sanders...who is yet to technically concede the race, BTW, has shown a remarkable rise on the democratic side of the aisle.

    I don't want to go into a lot of detail about the candidates here my point is as follows: Is human thought and evolution following a natural inclination, a natural growth curve where change is an inevitability? Is our intellectual and social history predestined in some fashion, in some manner where even the controllers, cannot control the natural movement of thought and progress? This idea related to the dialectic of change is not new...yet it has long ago been cast aside as a quaint avuncular way of looking at progress and the world. Yet, in our darkest hours has come, two developments that seem to be under no control what so ever: The rise of the internet as a source of egalitarian funding and social networking and, a new type of presidential candidate representing a new party line in both major parties. If someone had told you that the liberal constituency would wind up censoring people through a mechanism of speech semantics (politically correctness) and that the conservative party would be fighting for the rights of women in Saudi Arabia while the major democratic candidate contributed money to these oppressors...what would you have said?

    It will be very interesting to see what happens this election. It also will be interesting to see what happens if people wake up, despite the elites social programming. people might notice that Common Core is Nonsense and that the media has become a stage producer for many controlled opposition, and other propoganda events to push an agenda. Brix was a major event that would appear unanticipated. Parts of Britain woke up! Knowledge may alas be too strong to contain... I certaily hope so!
     
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  2. Rose

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    Bumping forward InPhiNet 2016 Trump campaign discussion as occurred for historical perspective.

    I remember well the late night InPHinet Skype session election night.

    Waiting, waiting waiting for Pennsylvania results to come in...

    Who would win, or lose, that bet?


    Those were days when it wasn't quite so lonely around here.

    Not complaining. It is the quality of friends, not the number, that matter.
     
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    My conversation with David during Trump's last campaign ended here 11/15/2016
    Looking forward to a new campaign thread in 2020...
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    Display of the Sad State of Hypno-Delusion in Liberally Educated Millennials
    "Everyone must get a trophy because we wouldn't want anyone to feel bad, awww."​
     
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    Post Election 60 Minutes Interview with President Elect Trump and Family

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    At CBS Site With Commercials Unfortunately
     
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    theatrr Bill's DOJ Runway Meeting Pal during Congressional Hearing theatrr


    huh9 Lying Loretta Lynch huh9
    Well, hmm, yes or no. Certainly, Yes for most people...
    Definitely, No, for anyone who has promised me an Attorney General gig....
    as I interpret the meaning of the statue.​
     
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    As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton routinely asked her maid to print out sensitive government e-mails and documents — including ones containing classified information — from her house in Washington, DC, e-mails and FBI memos show. But the housekeeper lacked the security clearance to handle such material.

    In fact, Marina Santos was called on so frequently to receive e-mails that she may hold the secrets to E-mailgate — if only the FBI and Congress would subpoena her and the equipment she used.

    Clinton entrusted far more than the care of her DC residence, known as Whitehaven, to Santos. She expected the Filipino immigrant to handle state secrets, further opening the Democratic presidential nominee to criticism that she played fast and loose with national security...

    “Pls ask Marina to print for me in am,” Clinton e-mailed top aide Huma Abedin regarding a redacted 2011 message marked sensitive but unclassified.

    In a classified 2012 e-mail dealing with the new president of Malawi, another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley, advised Clinton, “We can ask Marina to print this.”

    “Revisions to the Iran points” was the subject line of a classified April 2012 e-mail to Clinton from Hanley. In it, the text reads, “Marina is trying to print for you.”

    Both classified e-mails were marked “confidential,” the tier below “secret” or “top secret.”
     
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    In a John Pilger Special, to be exclusively broadcast by RT on Saturday courtesy of Dartmouth Films, whistleblower Julian Assange categorically denied that the troves of US Democratic Party and Clinton work and staff emails released this year have come from the Russian government.

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  15. Shadowself

    Shadowself Shadow Speaker

    Good evening!

    I don't usually talk politics which is why I've stayed out of this thread...but it's quite a turn of events the last week or so and hard to ignore!

    So thought I say first of all I'm not a fan of Hillery....however I'm not a fan of Trump either. Which is why I personally decided to stay out of this conversation. His past comments have been reprehensible....and all of those comments came to fruition in the latest scandal tape of Trump admitting using his star power to grab a woman in her private parts.

    I'm even more taken back that people are excusing this and writing it off as "locker room talk"! Whats more disturbing is the directions Trump has taken since it's fairly apparent he will most likely lose this election.

    I know...it's not over till it's over...but this guy finally got to me and fact checking what he is selling has become a past time of mine the last week. I watched the debate with riveting eyes and could not believe what I was watching! There was a time when you would encourage your children to watch the processes of electing a POTUS....not this one for sure!

    So ...since you David had some things to talk about regarding this election I'm quite curious how you view this latest turn of events. I'm even more curious becasue I know how you feel about bully's and this guy is the consummate bully!

    The wiki leaks dump pales in comparison to not only the revealed now historic and infamous tape from access hollywood....but his current trend to devote his time to completely disavowing the Republican party if they are not with him opting to save their own ass in the process and claiming a rigged election complete with voter fraud.

    Now I can to some degree go along with some conspiracy theory but this is beyond words! On that note I'll wait for a reply and say I was backing Bernie in the beginning...but still has some reservations but was certainly not down for either Hillery or Trump.
     
  16. david

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    This is an unprecedented election and this woman and the globalist agenda she represents is either going to be destroyed or destroy us...Its that simple to me. I am waiting a little closer to the election to write a piece on this...
     
  17. Rose

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  18. david

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    A Leopard cannot change his spots! lol.
     
  19. Rose

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    Blast from the past retrospective:
    Christopher Hitchens on Hillary's run against Obama and nomination for Secretary of State.
    None of this has changed.
     
  20. david

    david Member

    What you refer to as a "cross over Genre" in the making is why all pols are suspect...The whole situation is unprecedented. Ailes would indeed be a great asset. Anytime Trump makes the slightest effort he is effective...Hillary is truly despised and the powers that be cannot hide the fact they are trying to ram her down people's collective throat(s). If Trump wants this gig all he has to do is be more approachable than perhaps the most despised candidate ever in the history of our republic.

    its not so much that the media is important to inform voters, its more a question of getting them not to sabatoge things! Hillary's weaknesses are sooooo obvious, she cannot even stand up. the elitists are really caught with their pants down. They probably are realizing now...after Hillary was no doubt given permission to lie cheat, steal, beat the shit out of Bernie (there are reports he was scratched up, now he has a nice new third house...more on that in a moment), may have even been in on Joe junior's demise...Thats pushing it? maybe.... that Hillary has to go down and they know she will not step silently. She may well catch lead posion on this one! She won't care if they send a message with Bill lol! She is after all a psychopath. Killing Bill would probably not mean much to her.

    But Hillary has to go, the elites know that. She just is too much, the people are fighting back, the other people not in the conspiracy are not having it... crooked Obama, Crooked Colmey and Lying Loretta are just not stong enough, thank God! My own feeling is that they will get Hillary on RICO. I would be willing to bet a considerable sum of money on this outcome because that is what RICO is for! When Gotti got to big...they took down the entire mob and put him in a cage 24 7...Now a days? the same wise guys who lived large are pleading out with court appointed attorneys, the mob has been decimated. RICO took down Sheldon like he was small cattle and the New York DA does not need corrupt Lynch to do Hillary with RICO. If her health does not do her RICO is coming I doubt she gets nailed on perjury.

    With Bernie? It was like: smack smack whamp!!! Listen bitch, you are going to endorse this witch and take this money and buy yourself something big... Unless you would rather us film you abusing a child... smack smack whamp!!! and if you talk or misbehave you will be thrown in jail for taking donation money for this thing you buy...if you shut up your family is safe, you don't commit suicide and you keep the thing you buy. So naturally Bernie buys what everyone needs: a third house right?

    They are so evil.... And I don't believe Bernie had no choice, then again I wouldn't want to have been in his situation. I guess my point is that the Hillary death machine, we are at 6 so far... and Georgy Sorryass soorose have had to bypass the conspiracy because people were informed. Bless the alternative media, the internet, etc... Bless Britain for starting the revolution! We just have to do our part and hope that Trump wants this. If he does I don't think the company media can stop him.
     
  21. Rose

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    Indeed. Regarding media polls proving support: They got away with it as much as they wanted in off weeks during the primary, too, until actual vote results proved them wrong. They can claim anything they want to now with no effective counterbalance. Trump needs to make some MSM media deals and this last shake-up move leads me to wonder if that isn't what he is up to. Fox News seems to, in the majority, already have shifted several degrees towards Trump since Ailes departure. Since the story is Ailes is collaborating with Trump, I am wondering what intel of value Ailes may have to offer to the mix from his years of payrolling private detectives. I realize broadcast media is losing relevance every day, except for with the older generation. Is there a possibility Banner/Breitbart could be a crossover msm/internet genre in the making? I noticed my very first effective anti-clinton superpac ad during msm prime time news in Texas yesterday.
     
  22. david

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    I hope its a legitimate hiccup and that he Trump wants this...Its a cakewalk becaue Clinton is such damaged goods. Its quite true when Trump says he is running against the media. I can give Trump the benefit of the doubt...But man it makes me suspicious when he is up, all he has to do is play it cool and he falls into attacking strawman Kahn...and then that last comment threatening to blow her head off..he really does not know better? Mind you it does fit a profile as most people would love the opportunity to catch her bobbing cranium.

    I mean if he wants to win this its so easy. The pol data is BS, she is not drawing anyone and she is only trying to create that image so she can rig up the election and steal it...Trump may be more concerned with stopping that process and if he is, more power to him. They have some good people watching hillary like they watched karl as he thought he had stolen Ohio.

    I am scared that Trump is a plant and hope I am wrong.... Im on the fence. When I hear him say she is trying to steal the election it rekindles hope in my heart...Hes right and he has to hammer that home. He has to make people understand that she can only win by stealing the election like she did the nomination.
     
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    I don't feel possessive about threads Rose. The latest. Did you read about the supposed Muslim father? If Trump would explain why he tirades it would help people considerably!
     
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    And.... Daughter Ivanka :)
     
  29. Rose

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    David, am I derailing the intent of your thread with my posts here?
    Just let me know if I am and I will be happy to move them elsewhere.

    I had a good laugh just now listening to RNC coverage.
    Security rushed Cruz's wife out of the building last night when the crowd began booing his speech and yelling "GOLDMAN SACHS!!!" at her. smmile2
     
  30. Rose

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    Wow! Trump's other Son Eric made a Great Speech!
    And, he had to follow the hollow dampening energy of that complete creep Texas Senator Ted Cruz....
    Pardon me for my crudeness, but Cruz was invited to the party and took a dump in the punch bowl.
    What an egomaniac Idiot Cruz is.