Sociopaths / Psychopaths Sidebar Discussion

I actually agree with you on a point here Chico. you do indeed treat Rose like anyone else who dares act contrary to an opinion you hold. Could that be the problem? Consistancy is a virtue except when you are doing something wrong every time....I believe the classic explanation is that you are precise but not accurate? Its like you are either blind to your own failings or, a sociopath...where upon you know exactly what you are up to.

What do I hope to gain from Rose Chico? Let me share something with you...I have had some pretty important roles on websites, including one outing frauds for a website that is very popular in the martial arts community. In all that time I have never been any kind of an administrator. I don't do that. I don't do it because I really don't desire that relationship Chico...so what do I want from Rose? Validation? I don't like bullies Chico...bottom line. Whether a bully threatens to punch one in the nose, or call someone a sociopath its the same behavior. According to your calculations most of the site are sociopaths.

 

If your post is any indication, I have to suspect that you, David, have been exercising your superficial charm and sociopathic skills of persuasion on Rose, as you certainly are doing it here. You say the things you know she will want to hear, things that will comfort her, build her up, and at the same time vilify me as the source of the problem, absolving Rose of all responsibility. It's what sociopaths do, and it's something that I don't do. I treat Rose like anyone else. I don't flatter her, I don't defer to her opinions, I don't befriend her, I don't deceive her, and I don't manipulate her. You, on the other hand, like most sociopaths, do exactly that.

I am not here to save Rose or anybody else from sociopaths. I simply identify those types of personalities, point out their telltale behaviors, and try to teach others how to recognize them. It is up to each of us individually to save ourselves from being preyed on by sociopaths. Rose has to save herself. I can only show her the map. She has to choose which direction to take.

 

Just out of curiosity, Rose, can you recall Stephen ever saying anything along these lines to you or his other followers? That you passed the initial tests, but now he needs to test you again, to see if he can trust you?

No, I said your cryptic posts regarding Peter Joseph and George Ohwell could be interpreted by certain observers as an attempt to discredit the messenger (Peter Joseph) and ignore his message. You completely misinterpreted this as me calling you a liar, showing you no respect, questioning your empathy, scolding you for tardy assignments, and who knows what next! Really Rose, I am at a loss to understand where you are getting these ideas. It couldn't be from talking to David, could it?

 

This whole damn thing could so easily be avoided....If Rose would just understand that it is having been through the ringer and the the many sociopaths that inhabit these forums that have caused her reaction to Chico. I mean its obvious right? Who in their right mind would question Chico? With all those socios around he will save Rose if she just understands that the most king Chico can grant her is a reason why she has a right to be corrupted.

Again lets try this Chico, for the sake of your concern for another, for the sake of learning something about yourself...cut and paste, put it on your forehead if need be backwards and then look in a mirror all day.

"Rose, It occurs to me that your opinion, is in a broader sense, sui generis regarding this and any issue, as are any of ours really....you have a right to that opinion with no caveats, just as we all do." Chico.

 

No, not the sole valid truthseeker lane. I put everything out on the table so that it may be dissected, questioned, and criticized to validate its truthfulness, or reveal its error.

And there is the problem. You should do this in the beginning! Sociopathic members are constantly joining your forum, and you assume they have your level of empathy, but they don't. This gets you in trouble every time, because the sociopaths "make friends" with you, feeding your need for emotional connection and comfort, your need to feel fond of your fellow forum members. You get sucked right into their deception and manipulation. I saw it with Stephen, Shezbeth, Shadowself, and now David.

This whole "witch hunt" idea is one you created. I have never accused you of a witch hunt, nor has it ever been my intent to do so.

Again, you are imagining things that have no basis in reality. I have been a fan of Peter Joseph ever since I saw Zeitgeist many years ago. I am a fan of his because of his remarkable work, his ideas, his apparent sincerity and genuineness, and his truthfulness. I feel the same about John Perkins, Phil Schneider, Chip Tatum, Steven Greer, and other select whistle-blowers that I have investigated in detail. None of them are fixed on a pedestal in my eyes, and I have no problem knocking them off their high horses if they turn out to be deceptive or disingenuous.

As far as "repeatedly throwing me under the bus without a modicum of respect, consideration, or empathy", it is discouraging that you see my efforts to help you in such a light. However, I am not insulted or upset, as I try not to take things personally in the forums, and I understand where your reaction is coming from. You have been through the ringer over the past 5 years with your association to Stephen and his toxic entourage. The PTSD is still with you and probably will be for a long time. If you wish to believe that my honesty towards you is "repeatedly throwing me under the bus without a modicum of respect, consideration, or empathy", that is quite understandable, given how often you have already experienced such treatment from forum sociopaths. However, there is a difference here. Unlike with sociopaths, my true intent is to help you and others. Even so, there will be discomfort involved for you and others. I know discomfort is involved, as confronting sociopaths as I do is full of discomfort for me, but I have learned that what doesn't kill me makes me stronger when it comes to dealing with the most toxic of all humans, our cursed sociopaths.

When you are convinced that I have no empathy, that I am bad for the forum, that I am the sociopath deceiving and manipulating you or other members, a quick post stating as much is all that is needed for me to stop participating here. I have no problem with that. My perspective is that members who are sociopaths are not in the best interests of any forum, whether it be yours or the human community, and I operate from that perspective.

 

According to you a sociopath is anyone who thinks you are full of shit. Your ideas are your opinions so when one calls you out they are naturally attacking the messenger. Show me research that points to the fact that Hitler was not a sociopath...I am not talking about the Holocaust situation, I am saying that shows Hitler was not a sociopath. Show a coherent definition of a sociopath, not based on your opinion, that shows any of the people you mention are sociopaths. You actually do display traits of a sociopath chic.

You lie. You are hypocritical. You try to use forums as a way to wield power, rather than as a way to do social intercourse. "I am not here (on the forums) to make friends" this is your quote, not mine... I am here to make friends and to lend support and to exchange ideas, why wouldn't you be here to make friends? why are you here? you show extreme resistance to being challenged. you show no empathy what so ever. your rebuke of Zook is quite chilling really. You act like one who has gotten a taste and want to suck out that last drop...Zook was your friend at one time wasn't he? He was being honest (not a trait of a sociopath BTW) for the sake of the exchange and you just couldn't get enough could you?

Sociopaths also have no capacity for self reflection and Chico....seriously this is a big one for you! you also show what you are here for: When Gemma agrees with you you flatter her as though she has discovered the formula for eternal life...And of course you have to disparage those who disagree... Most people don't have to do that sir. that is what sociopaths do. "Oh yes you get it! Just follow uncle Charlie don't listen to those squares!" Nobody else does that here bro.... When Shadow and I discuss the war and she presents some videos that I was fond of....I didn't have a need to say something like "Oh Shadow you alone understand this point! the rest of the decieved just don't get it!" People don't normally have to resort to that sir.

Sociopaths are also compulsive: You keep up a great facade as a logic oriented guy...computer programmer, etc but you are so compulsive! You wanted to have me banned!! It took you precious little time to violate all the types of things that you accuse Bill Ryan of, with your thread about Bill's affiliations and behavior, then you publickly request the ban hammer for me? You couldn't catch yourself could you? got a bit impulsive, perhaps you panicked when you were exposed? I couldn't know this but I would bet in the administrators section you must have been trying to have me banned.

And heres a great one....a hidden gem that is a big red flag for a sociopath: every now and then you have referred to yourself in the third person....for example, if I said "David does not ban people who do that." Chico.....Chico...... For those of us who have studied sociopaths....that would put you in rarified air baby!! All you can do us accuse me of being a sociopath and that is obvious to everyone here. OH I am quite sure some here may dislike me, and my posts... Hey I like civil discourse but honest discourse. I am sure I piss a few off to which I apologize it is not my intention, seriously. I don't like to cause pain to any being under any circumstances when it can be helped.

To those whom I have caused pain and anger I can only say this: It is not fair when individuals act like bullies. Bullies are not all mouthy pricks with visible anger issues, nor are they all any stereo type. Some bullies are dressed in social finery and appear any number of ways. Any individual that insists on trampling on others, whether they have the right to, OR not....intellectually, or physically, is a bully. Bullies do things like cast aspersions on those they disagree with. They go into threads where they are not welcome and when asked to leave, do not do so....some even attack the thread starter. Bullies are grandiose and think their ideas are more important, or true, than the ideas of others. Finally even when a bully is told, "ok I can agree to disagree", or, "I respect your point of view I see things differently" they do not stop their line of posting...because it is about dominating, not about making friends, that interest the bully.

And that is the basis for my actions.

 

No. I know how my comments and actions affect sociopaths. I have much experience in dealing with sociopaths, which I have publicly documented as I lived it. Your reaction is typical, David, though more extreme than Zook's, and more in line with Stephen's. It's all focused on discrediting me personally via a smear campaign, the typical "kill the messenger, ignore the message" tactic sociopaths always use. I'm quite familiar with that kind of attack.

Of course you do. You read them in search of attack possibilities. Shadowself scoured the Internet for "pay dirt", as she called it. GW clandestinely recorded every Skype conversation andywight and I had with her. Why? She will say it was to "protect" herself, which is the kind of lie sociopaths use (a twisted truth). The reality is that she archives everything to be examined later for use as potential blackmail. This is the sociopathic mindset. You clearly have it.

 

Gemma

I read the retort to be about Chic's behavior not about your commitment or contribution. If you look at the general flow of your contributions, responses, etc there is a general "give and take" like exist with most ideas and with most posters. It is not your efforts that have been questioned thats my point. It has never been about the knowledge of PJ you bring to the table. I only point this out because you can see for yourself on the thread what has occured. If I said to you "Gemma I have to look at idea A more carefully before I commit to a point of view, would you chastize me for anything?" Thats what Chic did and that is what caused the reaction...it has nothing to do with the material per se.

Chic brooks no dissention and has no ability to see outside his narrow lanes of inquiry. He makes it a power struggle instead of a give and take. You may feel that Chic was wronged...fine one can agree to disagree on that issue. I do think it is important to separate the issue of Chic's delivery from the material itself.

 

Rose this is extremely disappointing to read. Not only is it so far from reality, it is insulting. I have a tremendous compassion for humanity and have been altruistic all my life. I have studied numerous disciplines for over thirty years trying to find an actionable solution that has the serious potential to really make a difference and in doing so maybe, just maybe help all the incredible hard working activists in their chosen disciplines that are already giving their blood, sweat, tears, and in many cases the loss of their lives, to help humanity.

Presuming everyone was similar to myself was no doubt why the impaired psychology of our leadership was the last thing I explored and is why, thanks to Chico's efforts, it has had such a profound effect on me for it is something that can be investigated and addressed NOW - rather than waiting for spaceships to drop out of the sky, or another war, or a natural global catastrophe that wipes out most of humanity in order to rebuild from, or waiting for a religious saviour to manifest and make it all go away.

The insinuation that my personal efforts for contributing a workable campaign to assist with discovering why inhumane atrocities are inflicted daily on a global basis are nothing more than a delusional rainbow carrot is offensive; and yet spoken whilst you yourself are complaining that you are not being treated with respect, consideration, or empathy.

I was under the impression that you were all about formulating and experimenting with a platform for positive global activism and change, and in this it seems I have been delusional.

 

You must be one important individual. I mean all these people wanting to sabatoge you and all. And Shadow just laying such a trap for you that....Lol I can't even say it. Its pathetic. How long did it take you to figure out that way to sociopath out of being wrong and lying about when shadow got upset? Chic sociopaths will NEVER admit they were wrong, even when caught in a lie. Once again you are the only one acting like a sociopath... Your ruse is not even clever! and your theory about all these people borders on paranoid delusional. Your like Clinton answering questions bro! I bet you can even keep a straight face when you post this obvious BS.

don't know Chic... It might be pathological with you which would mean you can't help yourself. I have to consider this. At any rate I can't keep doing this back and fourth. Your going to have to really think about what Rose posted because she is at least fond of you. Your behavior is antisocial and detrimental the question is whether you can change your behavior.

 

My opinion (yours is also just an opinion) is that Shadowself laid a trap for me with her Pyramid thread. My first post there was genuine, on-topic, and quite legitimate, yet it caused Shadowself to immediately call for me to do the improbable: self-censor regarding the subject of sociopaths.

Keep in mind that Shadowself had silently observed the entire Shezbeth/Chico conflict on this forum, with nary a comment. From her perspective, it was all useful information ("Never let a crisis go to waste") with which to plan her trap. Sociopaths don't just stumble into these situations, they plan for them. Right, David?

So I maintain that Shadowself did indeed want me gone before I made that first comment in her Pyramid thread. I have additional evidence to support that opinion.

One important piece of evidence is that I've tangled with Shadowself before but didn't know it. However, Shadowself did know it.

After my first innocent post, Shadowself was quick to shut me down and make any mention of sociopaths taboo.

Shadowself had no objections to me speaking about sociopaths before in another thread. She even participated.

I later stated my opinion that Shadowself's censorship of me in the Pyramid thread was premeditated.

Her excuse for shutting me down was "You were trolling my thread to illicit a response." This was just her plausible deniability for having prepared the trap in the first place.

You agreed that I was not trolling Shadowself.

Before Shadowself leaves, she lays the framework for the next sociopath operative to challenge Chico, and David shows up to fill the bill:

Yes, it's not right that anyone should judge and condemn a sociopath for his deceptive behavior and malevolent mind. Any sociopath will agree with that.

My opinion is that Shadowself had the intent to sabotage my presence here at Inphinet. Uncle Zook also had that intent. I believe David has that same intent.

As George Carlin said, "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." Anyone who regularly exposes the deceptions of sociopaths is going to be targeted by sociopaths in general. I should know, as it has been consistently like that for me in the forums non-stop for 5 years, ever since I first posted about sociopaths at Avalon in 2011.



George Carlin on Conspiracies

 

I should ammend this post because you see Chic I can be sllllloooooooow at times, idiot savante indeed! By the way thank you...I am in fact an idiot Savants in many respects, Flattering that you saw that. I am trying to figure out something you could help me with: Im trying to figure out what would motivate someone (you) to attack Shadow in the first place. I mean you didn't like her cadence If I remember correctly, and you later decided you had some ideas about the pyrmids you wanted to bring into the thread, which were brought in after she left.

you seemed to realize (I say seemed cause I am not you) you had been given the right by Rose and others to continue to attack Shadow... Thats cool, listen I know Jews who defended the Nazi marches in Stoakley Ill because they felt the first amendment and the right to assemble was that important...So ok you exerscized your rights, fair enough. So why? What service did you provide the community when you decided that "Chic who is not here to make friends, must solder on!" What were you hoping to accomplish by exerscizing your right to be in the thread?



what say you?

 

Lets assume you were not lying about when Shadow wanted you gone...It would mean that are lacking in perspective on how your actions effect others wouldn't it? Would it be so difficult to develop some self perspective? I know I can be an asshole! We all can be assholes at times. The problem becomes when it is systemic and treads on others....then it becomes bullying.

IF you were unaware that your comments caused Shadow to want you gone how does that make you feel? is that what you intended? I read your comments BTW.

 

Chic as much as I have love for my fellow man, unconditional love and patience I cannot bring myself to give one shit about what you think. If you think I am trying to convince an idiot like you of anything? Well mark Twain said it best "arguing with imeciles is dangerous, they will drag you down to their level and smother you."

You are not capable of self reflection or rational thought. By the way I have heard you refer to yourself in the 3rd person and the fact that you think your opinion matters are also...prime examples of......socio....you guessed it!

 

Relying on Occam's Razor again, David? To appear so simple-minded, you must either be relying on it, or you are cleverly deceiving us again. You don't have to be Stephen or GW to act as his or her mouthpiece, or to participate in any psy-op they may wish to inflict on Inphinet using your membership.

Getting stupid, David? Compare the diverse writing styles of NinjaNun, wassupdoc, ANonyMouse, and King Art2. All are Gypsy Woman. All sociopaths know how to project a false image. Including you.

I also favor accountability for hardened-criminal sociopaths, like Hillary Clinton. Same principle.

I agree, Stephen certainly doesn't need you, but as an opportunistic sociopath, Stephen will use any means available that will benefit him. As will you.

Shadowself wanted me gone before I had made any comments. All sociopaths want to see a world without me in it. Why? Because I advocate a world where sociopaths are clearly identified and swiftly disqualified.

For the record, eh? That's the same quote Zook is always tossing about! You'll have to forgive me if I don't believe anything you say. Sociopaths are notorious for clever lies, and not only do you clearly behave like a sociopath, you openly admit you are one. And with all the lies you've already been caught telling ( 1 2 ), there's no reason to take your word on anything.

 

For the record. Gypsy didn't even want me to post here and asked that "I avoid that idiot chick..". a direct quote. So no I am not an agent provacatore.... gee chick you flatter me! Your just not that important, it's just me hating a bully...and the first comments made were made by you when you heard I would be posting....don't start it if you can't finish it.

 

Rose can easily confirm I am not gypsy...we don't even write in similar fashion. Getting desperate chic? Lol.
Figures you would favor banning hypocrite lol. When the heat comes out of the kitchen, chick'so principles go out the window...and fast. Sociopaths love authority like the ban hammer.

Paranoid also are we...listen I doubt Stephen needs me to fight his battles, whatever one may think of him he's not a proxy guy lol.

So what about when shadow wanted you to be gone because of your incessant comments? Hyyyyypoooocritttteee do not go away mad Chico someone must love ya!
Your targeted because your actions are deplorable.

 

It's becoming quite clear to me that this whole "David" operation is a Gypsy Woman psy-op. I'll refer to Gypsy Woman as GW from here on out.

• As a sociopath, GW would naturally jump at the chance to try to destroy Chico again after he ruined her King Art2 master plan at United People (hereafter UP).
• You, David, came into the forum specifically targeting me with your very first post, which is an "off" way to join a forum.
  
• You have been unrelenting, vicious, and over-the-top, all characteristics of the false-flag type attack favored by GW, exactly as used at UP.
• As an idiot-savant, you are not capable of pulling off this kind of operation on your own. You have to be directed, as we witnessed at UP, where GW told you what to do.
• "Your" remarkable post was so out of character that it shows there are other characters working with you.
  
• Your post that reminds me so strongly of Shadowself or even Stephen also indicates other characters working with you.
  
• The constant harping ( 1 2 3 4 ) about Chico being so quick to ban people, a clearly false accusation that references the single episode of banning at UP in five years, where I was forced to ban GW and her wrecking crew (which included you) in order to stop the destruction of the forum. This focus on Chico banning everyone at the drop of a hat would be a typical propaganda tool that GW would employ, and one her ego would insist upon.
• The constant harping about Chico using sock puppets, another false accusation. This is just GW the sociopath accusing her opponent Chico of her own malfeasance, as sociopaths always do! Even as she operates through a sock puppet... facepalm
  
• Your post mysteriously praising GW for correcting you, which is GW's enormous ego announcing itself in a "hidden in plain sight" way that sociopaths typically favor.
  
• GW's evolution of using multiple sock puppets to now operating through a single loyal lieutenant, one David Simon. Sociopaths are never cured, they just learn to conspire and scheme more efficiently.
• This latest post of yours, which is much more GW's vicious and verbose style than the short and shallow posts you consistently made at UP. I suspect GW is actually standing in your shoes, "David", perhaps even from your very first post.

So with GW behind you, "David", I have to wonder if she has pulled Stephen into this little plan, which would also be just like GW to do. Stephen has been chomping at the bit to get back at Inphinet ever since Rose regained control of the forum and banned him along with his wrecking crew. Stephen also has a big incentive to come after me, since I exposed his sociopathy publicly at Atticus1, which eventually caused his psy-op there to fail. Add to that that I was invited here by Rose to talk about sociopaths, with Stephen being the highlighted example, which surely has him boiling for revenge (much like GW). So for Stephen and GW to form an alliance and operate clandestinely through "David" would satisfy the sociopathic bloodlust of both of them.

It's been quite the chaotic party, just like GW pulled at UP, dividing and conquering exactly as sociopaths naturally do, all while falsely laying the blame on me (the so-called "splitter"). Knowing the deviousness of this operation and the further damage it will surely wreak on this forum as long as you are a member, I would have to be in favor of banning "David" from Inphinet. Or would we actually be banning GW?

 

So..again..."proof" for you is a disagreement? chic does not like Ockham's Razor so it must be the provinance of sociopaths everywhere. You keep promising truth and presenting innane Doo Dooisms do you not know the difference? By the way in your rush to judgement you contradicted yourself: You state that Ockham's Razor is widely interpreted as "the simplest explanation is best," then you go on to imply that sociopaths use Ockham's Razor....so which is it Chick? is it misused? or do sociopaths use it and is that the problem?

Chalk up another concept too hard for you to grasp...Ockham's Razor. I could explain it to you? just PM me and I will be glad to send you some information on the concept ok? No shame in not understanding something... That is unless one crosses you, my good friend Chick! I noticed that you become quite the bully boy with Zook when he had the temerity to admit he had made a research faux Pax with FInkelstein? I think it was? You lit right into him lol. Just bullying away demanding to make him apologize, to you...real predatory sociopath behavior I must say! And the name calling! Again Hypocracy. You could just taste that power ehh CHic? You wanted to bring him down! That is predatory behavoir...it happens when a sociopath perceives a weakness, I teach about it from a self protection perspective and your tongue lashing is a textbook example!

You are a hypocrite and this is yet another example. I would never light into someone like that under those conditions, or ANY conditions (frankly) yet I am the sociopath? I would never demand an apology, belittle someone for having the courage to admit mistakes.... but a sociopath sure would! Wouldn't they chic? Hey...just wonderin" would you demand that of Stephen? Would you get in his keyboard face? No you wouldn't because you would be afraid that there was just a chance...that he would seek you out you little coward. But Zookie? fair game right? Sociopaths are usually bullies chico and in this day and age of egalitarian keyboard type culture, even a Beta like yourself can climb the heiarchy right? And there you are to take full advantage right Chic? But hey. Like I said, I would never belittle anyone like that so if it suites you to understand Ockham's Razor, just ask.

I just hate bullies, but heres the thing: even now when I am exposing you, I am mindful of certain boundaries and social conventions... Like for example, most socially well adjusted individuals, no matter what a person had said to them online, would give a little if an adversary admitted a fault. But not a sociopath! You might actually be a sociopath, I don't know, but your behavior is consistant with many sociopathic tendencies. I suspect your antisocial nature makes you a sociopath, though I can't be sure. What I do know is that you are a bully, a hypocrite, pushing a false doctrine that is ego driven and not based on any real substantive issues...though you have managed to ruin some threads detailing with substantive issues.... Great job I mean that because for a sociopath its all about destroying any challenge to their authority, right Chic? Kinda reminds me how Shadow was pleading with you in her thread to stay on course.... Again most people would consider the relative importance of the group, maybe make a comment digging in and let it be, but not a sociopath!

Finally? I am saying this with no hint of irony Chic, all playtime aside: You ought to be ashamed of yourself for your rebuke of Zook. My own bias vis a vis feelings about Zook, who I have never been a fan of, come from being a teacher for many years and I cop to that bias. Yeah thats on me ok? But understand this, because sociopaths can't feel as well: When another human being who has been in conflict with you over an issue admits second thoughts, or that he/she was mistaken about something, a genuine mammal of a human being throws them a bone, rewards them. A genuine person realizes that it takes some real Hotzpa to admit an error in judgement where your adversary might be correct. A person makes himself vulnerable at that point, almost like a dog turning over to expose its throat and body unprotected ( I bet you don't have animals at home lol, another socio trait at times).

Most of us recognize this gesture and at least back off a bit...you went right for the jugular didn't you? was that Zookies last post here? Wouldn't suprise me. That thread is the best proof yet of your hypocracy and sociopathic nature. Your tired defense of trying to make my behavior fit the category of a sociopath is such an obvious ploy coming from you, where everyone is a sociopath except Hitler. Except HItler? Yes to Chico Hitler was not a sociopath. Its pretty obvious to anyone, even those who may not like me here....that I am hardly a sociopath. I can be haughty because I am a teacher...I use that voice naturally at times, it is not a control mechanism. Anyone can see I am not threatened by a difference of opinion and that I don't use my opinions to control a conversation. You even know I am probably not a sociopath Chic don't you? You already know that you banned me, and that you had sock puppets at Ryan's site don't you?... You just label those who conflict with you as sociopaths and use conventions that exist on a board such as this to make things a living hell for people who resent your reactionary views becoming the focus on their threads. Your not fooling many, some perhaps, others may not want to admit they think you are an ass.

Your good friend David the sociopath

 

Yes, that's more like the David I know and despise (much like I despise other sociopaths like Shadowself and Atticus / Stephen). I knew that post of yours focusing on the message had to be another deceptive "game" of the game-playing sociopath.

Occam's Razor, like Adam Smith's ideas on the social benefits of greed, is also misunderstood and flawed. It is widely interpreted as "The simplest explanation is best." This is obviously ludicrous in an enormously complex universe that can produce scheming sociopaths, who are more than happy to convince everyone to accept simple explanations so that their convoluted conspiracies and deceptions might succeed more easily. "Nineteen Muslim terrorists with box-cutters did 9/11!" Right, you can't get much simpler than that, so Occam's Razor says it must be true. The real sociopaths behind 9/11 would love us to believe that. Your reasoning in your post follows the same pattern, David. I wonder why? Oh, right... similar psychologies.

 

I don't need to smear you you do a fine job yerownself. So... Even though you misinterpret the passage, and claim it is due to a "twisting" you really understood the passage? And we are supposed to believe that the grandiose chic (another socio ahhem trait....) can see that Smith was deliberate and deceptive and why? because...he was a sociopath?! Circular reasoning at its best...with nary a fact to support any part of the circle. You dunce. Seems to me that your obfiscation of the passage shows that to the contrary you did not know what Smith was talking about. Certainly its much more plausible that he was influenced by Utilitarian thinkers like Mills, than deliberate deceit, Ockham's Razor anybody?

I guess your belief (grandiosity) is enough to establish the twisted motive? Lol. Seriously? Chic don't hate me because I am smart enough to expose you... Professor David? are we a little bitter? Frankly Zook gives you too much credit. He says you have book smarts...wonder to what book he is referring? It ain't anything Adam Smith wrote thats for sure! Lol you amuse me to no end Chic...Your my good buddy the army general from Dr Strange Glove concerned about precious bodily fluids. Thanks for the entertainment.

Your best sociopath buddy David.

 

What a remarkable post, David! Instead of attacking the messenger, you actually addressed the message! Whereas your other posts are all about smearing and belittling me personally, in the typical unempathetic manner that sociopaths employ, you actually changed your game for this one. And you did it following this post, which I could easily have mistaken as a post from Shadowself or Stephen! Nice change-up!

So let's continue to actually address the message before you start slinging vicious insults again...

Yes, I already knew he was saying that, Professor David.

I am reading it exactly as you are, and it is a deception, as I will explain.

I understood his point exactly as you did. The deception is that his point is a deliberate twisting of the truth.

Unlike you, Professor, I can clearly state that I disagree with Smith. Each person pursuing his own self interest is NOT in the best interests of society. This is the fundamental flaw and underlying lie of capitalism, that competition produces greater social benefits than cooperation. Sociopaths will always argue for competition, as that aligns with their psychology that emphasizes deception, self-interest, inequality, and greed. They can never see things like people who have empathy, who understand that cooperation has the ability to lift all boats faster than competition could ever dream of.

Of course you would suggest that. It's just like a sociopath to state with self-assured conviction that I am the one who is confused.