Discussion in 'Φ POLITICS' started by Rose, Nov 8, 2019.
It was most likely Dershowitz' Constitutionality Arguments
that swayed crucial swing votes against witnesses.
Graham tells Maria about his plans to investigate Bidens, Schiff, FISA
This is too funny...
Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), a key swing vote in the impeachment trial, said Friday she will vote against calling more witnesses.
“The House chose to send articles of impeachment that are rushed and flawed. I carefully considered the need for additional witnesses and documents, to cure the shortcomings of its process, but ultimately decided that I will vote against considering motions to subpoena,” Murkowski said in a statement.
“Given the partisan nature of this impeachment from the very beginning and throughout, I have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the Senate. I don’t believe the continuation of this process will change anything. It is sad for me to admit that, as an institution, the Congress has failed.”
The move means the trial will likely result in an acquittal of President Donald Trump.
The House ’trial manager,’ Adam Schiff, is a disgrace to our nation.
During the question and answer session, he actually launched into a story describing how Trump colluded with Putin to punish our ally, Ukraine, for not going along with his ‘quid pro quo.’ Schiff was being hypothetical, but he framed the story as fact. It was similar to the slimy whopper he told to the House.
Schiff is a proven liar. He is an absolute disgrace to Congress. How easy it was for him to slip back to the ‘Russia! Russia! Russia!’ conspiracy theory like a slippery snake oil salesman.
The impeachment is a partisan sham carried out by sociopathic House leaders whose obvious hate of our president is more than palpable. They wanted him impeached from day one. With their weak field of candidates, they know they will lose in November and so they resorted to impeachment in the hope it would keep our president from getting. Shame on the Democrats, but they know no shame.
The trial needs to end. TODAY! Acquit President Trump!
Collins is a Yes
Alexander voting No on witnesses?
Posted on January 30, 2020
“I worked with other senators to make sure that we have the right to ask for more documents and witnesses, but there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the United States Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense. …The Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate.
“The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did. I believe that the Constitution provides that the people should make that decision in the presidential election that begins in Iowa on Monday. …Our founding documents provide for duly elected presidents who serve with ‘the consent of the governed,’ not at the pleasure of the United States Congress. Let the people decide.” – Senator Lamar Alexander
Washington, D.C., January 30, 2020 -- United States Senator Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) today released the following statement on his vote regarding additional evidence in the impeachment proceedings:
“I worked with other senators to make sure that we have the right to ask for more documents and witnesses, but there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the United States Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense.
“There is no need for more evidence to prove that the president asked Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter; he said this on television on October 3, 2019, and during his July 25, 2019, telephone call with the president of Ukraine. There is no need for more evidence to conclude that the president withheld United States aid, at least in part, to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens; the House managers have proved this with what they call a ‘mountain of overwhelming evidence.’ There is no need to consider further the frivolous second article of impeachment that would remove the president for asserting his constitutional prerogative to protect confidential conversations with his close advisers.
“It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation. When elected officials inappropriately interfere with such investigations, it undermines the principle of equal justice under the law. But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate.
“The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did. I believe that the Constitution provides that the people should make that decision in the presidential election that begins in Iowa on Monday.
“The Senate has spent nine long days considering this ‘mountain’ of evidence, the arguments of the House managers and the president’s lawyers, their answers to senators’ questions and the House record. Even if the House charges were true, they do not meet the Constitution’s ‘treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors’ standard for an impeachable offense.
“The framers believed that there should never, ever be a partisan impeachment. That is why the Constitution requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate for conviction. Yet not one House Republican voted for these articles. If this shallow, hurried and wholly partisan impeachment were to succeed, it would rip the country apart, pouring gasoline on the fire of cultural divisions that already exist. It would create the weapon of perpetual impeachment to be used against future presidents whenever the House of Representatives is of a different political party.
“Our founding documents provide for duly elected presidents who serve with ‘the consent of the governed,’ not at the pleasure of the United States Congress. Let the people decide.”
Today's Defense Trial
The Snake with the Mustache
Trump Defense Counsel Ken Starr said impeachment Is ‘Hell,’ and like war, it is a bad habit to be kicked.
That was enough to inspire this cartoon. War is a bad habit, and John Bolton is a warmonger. He wanted war with Iran in particular and was frustrated when President Trump reined him in at every turn. Now he wants to use the impeachment proceedings as a means to shamelessly hype his new book and hit back at Trump.
We now see Bolton’s true neocon turncoat colors. In Dante’s “Inferno,” there was a special circle in Hell for such traitors. Bolton has penned a book that lambasts the president and accuses him of using a ‘quid pro quo’ arrangement with Ukraine in order to get Joe Biden investigated. Trump denies it, but even if true it’s not impeachable. It’s the president’s job to prevent corruption and Biden is corrupt as they come.
Bolton’s fellow turncoat, Mitt Romney, and a handful of Republicans are expressing a willingness to hear Bolton as a witness. That opens a clown car door and we’ll see who knows how many witnesses for both sides. The impeachment hell could drag on even longer, and that’s not good for our country.
Deep State partisans with Trump Derangement Syndrome shouldn’t get to decide whether or not Trump gets a second term. It shouldn’t hinge on a white mustache. That decision should be left to American citizens in November.