Michael Trimm IMO the most credible analyzer out there.

I have come to virtually the same conclusions Trimm has...All the way up through the idea that election fraud initially started a new level of control. Big picture thinkers are a real danger to the power elite because we are not distracted... This guy figured things out and has been threatened since then. It took him a while to connect the dots, but he is absolutely correct. LISTEN TO HIM!!

 

Its all opinions and looking for correlations. We are starting to get solid proof of Clinton's intentions, and the conspiracy underlining these acts. But what I tend to do is look at what happens and what whistle blowers knew of it and how they knew of it. So lets talk Trimm:

There is a Japanese concept whereby one knows what a higher up is saying, even when the higher up seems to say the opposite. For example, a board meeting at Toyota and a pesky individual asks a big wig if they could fire a division in the company to satisfy consumers...the bigwig grunts out "yes" and looks up at the group. The bigwigs assistant comes out and is asked if anyone is being fired and says "No, Okimono san does not want anyone fired."

The FRacking is imo a diversion, a red herring thrown out there for somebody, I doubt Trimm believes it. he tells us he has to play ball so we are warned right? He also is very much like "Okimono San" because when he tells us "to be happy" he is really saying to be careful." He may be saying also, that we should not be consumed by this, but thats not his profile is it? this is not a guy who tells us about better living and health, he is a big picture thinker who connects the dots and does so well enough that he got called on the carpet in our "free" society.

Heres the piece of info that correlates imo....And when I say correlates I mean, we have a great source at Reddit 4 Chan who imo is very credible
https://www.reddit.com/r/inthemorning/comments/4r2foe/hillary_insider_leaks_info_on_4chan/

We have numerous sources that also say the same thing, from CIA, FBI, etc etc

We now have Trimms saying the same thing.

We have physical evidence that our president, the Justice Department, and parts of the FBI are conspiring... We have evidence that materials have been destroyed, election activity rigged, etc in the name of this conspiracy. And...an often overlooked piece of data is that we have seen that the state department is evidently NOT part of the conspiracy at large, because they were honest about Clinton's activities.

So what do all these sources say? They all say that this conspiracy is virtually our entire government. it reminds me of the Boys Town scandal in the eighties where people started to die in plane crashes, threats were made, as people got to see how sick the power mongers where.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

So that is where we are at imo. If the information came out about the extent of what the Clinton faction, Bush faction, Obama faction did, there would probably be formal declarations of war against this country.

 

Lol. You get a lot of exotic words in philosophy for sure. Sometimes people are convinced it is window dressing, and sometimes it makes sense when explained. When I was studying Martin Heidegger my teacher was fluent in German and told me this story: He went to a philosophy convention in Germany, to read a passage from Seine un Zeindt (can't spell the German) or what is known in English as Being and Time.... Heidegger's defining piece of work. Heidegger like Kant was notorious for being cryptic and at that time was not widely read for political reasons primarily.

When he finished the passage the ever polite German audience clapped and later he was approached and asked "what language he had spoken at the podium." he was then asked if he studied German with a German speaker, etc. Heidegger's work is so filled with descriptive terms that it does not even sound proper in his native tongue! Actually Hatsumi sensei of the Bujinkan has also been accused of speaking in perfectly fluent medieval Japanese! And lets not forget the North Koreans who also apparently sound like the equivalent of a European speaking English during the 1400's, in Korean.

 

Facsmile substance versus degree
Could be so regarding this point Rose, although then we make a distinction between substance and state of being. Langan has to argue some of these points because when we look at the concept of a copy (fact-similar latin) we can actually have all matter of similarity and difference in appearances. Is it essentially the same? and from where do we judge sameness and difference? This becomes a discussion especially when we introduce the concept of a Hollograph.

To Langan's credit he does not posit some deception, he is straight foward about the distinction between the substance of consciousness. Many philosphers positing a similar idea, like Spinoza and Schopenhauer, are dualists. Hegal was a monoist because he posited a point of god recognizing itself in the dialectic culminating in Christianity.

On access to infinite consciousness: Yes. I agree with you. It could well be that in the imperfect hollographic facsimile lies a relative ability of godliness to recognize itself as such...Thus our trials and tribulations are imperfections in the cybernetic loops of godliness recognizing, altering and shrinking from to present the next moment. the problem with this is that Langan has to tell us at some point exactly how this comes to be so. One of the best ideas regarding this was the theory put out by Hidden Hand, the Illuminati insider (or so says he) that shared the perspective of cosmology held by the elites: The great creator, every time she divides becomes more and more distant from itself and the subsequent soul must find its way back... She does this to recognize herself and see her greatness.

Your analogy using the computer makes a lot of sense. Its cybernetic imo because we are part of the computer, our actions go into the calculus as we aprehend the gigantic computer.

Co expansiveness. A facsimile is a copy but we only see the term in Latin. latin for us is a language of terms and precise meanings when in fact it was originally a language for merchants, some specialized fields, etc. Ancient Greek is a much more precise language for engaging philosophical discourse. To the pre-socratics a facsimile was elaborate: Greek thinking indicates that appearances are multivaried, i.e. an object that we encounter with our faculties can have shadows, phantasmic aspects, can exist only for the sake of the meaning we attach to the object, or the object can appear as the thing-in-itself. our mind literally apprehends the object. So can one have a facsimile of the appearance of something? The way our experiences appear, is as real as the process of reality shrinking reality in many respects. A facsimile is never complete, it is always by the relationship it bares to the thing-in-itself a superficial image.

What if we define a facsimile as a rendering of an object without recourse to the Hollagraphy of the object which determines its make up in single undivided reality? Think about this...by its very nature a hollograph is a copy of sorts, but it is not a copy of the appearance of the object, but rather the essence of the object. For example, I take a picture of a snowflake and it looks like a blott...yet if we look carefully at a snowflake we see it is constructed in a manner similar to all snow flakes and that the structure of these snowflakes has the same structure as a crystal structure under conditions that make snow.

If we use this definition we can say that Langan's monoism is grounded in an absolute thinghood-in-itself of consciousness which takes the same form during the expansion and deflation of consciousness as it moves through the time space continuum. When looked under the microscope (figuratively speaking) consciousness is revealed to be a hollogram of the creator.

 

I agree that Langan wants to posit a conditional monism, I don't think it holds up imo. lets look at the passages you describe and for the sake of "stepping out" lets look at Kashmir Tantric thought. Tantric thought because it is an example of a conditional duality which is also a Monoism. Shiva and Shakti, the divine, the feminine or, the phenominal flux of reality interwoven with that which is eternal. It becomes a matter of perspective. Chitta, or consciousness, spanda, the energy that makes up consciousness moves between the two so that in essence the world is both: dualistic in its phenominal characteristic, and monistic in its absolute sense. So this would be an example of saying reality is both all one and essentially dual.

Holo-pantheism is a concept that to me engenders the crux of this first paragraph. Not only are we all fragments of one, but in being these fragments, we are essentially a complete facsimile of the one. A hollograph is in fact just that, when proper light comes through a prism, all parts of the whole are miniatures of the whole... In the case Langan is making the facsimiles are just not as perfect as the unity of consciousness that is the intelligence behind it all. I believe Langan states this somewhere as being the difference between the god part that is us compared to God.... Its a very interesting idea. It is indeed quite "holo-graphic in much the same way that an atom is a solar system in miniature.

so to Langan the consciousness that pervades is in all of us, it is part of all of us, in varying degrees of perfection, like Plato's archetypical triangle versus the triangles we write. Our consciousness like the dialectic can embrace certain levels of the whole depending on capacity. Again, I have simplified the argument to work with it through clear comprehension: Langan posits the relationship as a set of objects in reality and the ability to comprehend reality, which is the supreme work of the creator, manifesting reality through space and time, forever perfecting it while the smaller subsets of reality grasp to the degree possible the perfection unfolding.

To me this is essentially dualistic because there is always the lacuna between the imperfect and the perfect, the capacity vis a vis incapacity, The global syntex vis a vis the individual synex. I do think Langan saying that we are all versions of the same unfolding reality, where upon he seems to say one can be misled into thinking pantheonistically that there are different manifestations, perhaps different realities imagined, and that this is an illusion, is a logically consistant statement. Its Hegalanism really... it is positing a creator to bring in a consistency and purpose...But Langan does a nice job qualifying that as hollographic. Yet, there are still essentially two facsimiles at any given time as reality infolds: that of the superior Hollograph (the creator) and that of the inferior Hollograph, the relative comprehension consciousness has of itself from the perspective of the ignorant man.

 

Lets look at two philosophical truths implicit in Langan's analysis: 1) Dualism. We can have monoism, Dualism or tantrism. Tantrism is degrees of real in phenominal reality hidden in dualism...so a hybrid of you will. Though Langan might take issue with the label, he is for the purposes above a dualist because you have at least two aspects of reality. You have feedback loops, purpose loops and reality which is fundamentally different from the stuff of matter and energy. I know this is simplistic but bare with me.

Knowing this above we come to the second truth: Reality and the relationship of Telos, or purpose...How can you have reality that creates? along with fallibility? A classic question undermining virtually all doctrines that presuppose a reality creator, or a reality that in some way creates itself according to a process....Because it if does so it must be at least somewhat infallible? right?

I have deliberately strayed outside Chris to show that as much as I love Chris' brilliant leap into the philosophical fires that claim to cook us reality itself....the issues remain the same. You either gots yer free will, er ya dont. Or do you? As a dualist Chris can certainly claim part of reality is fallible...which he in fact does when he says that our souls go where we are at. If we are evolved they go to an evolved place, if we are evil, they go to a place that is separated from the group soul activities that are evolving. Chris says as much in his questions and answers to his work...But i could tell you what I did anyway because thats how dualists get down! Whether Indian vedantists, Schopenhuer, a dualist is a dualist and not a monoist, so there are at least two places we can go (spirit, matter) (phenominal falsehood monoist truth, etc).

Does this dualism totally explain why free will can be bifurcated? divided into a perfect evolving universe that is responsive...albeit responsive including the pure, the impure, the truth, falsehood and therefore a reality that recurses all aspects (not reflects) when it solders on, and is therefore both subject to limited free will and perfection.... But I want to throw a better argument at you.

I may have stated this before Rose, if so I apologize. It related indirectly to Langon. I think as smart as chris is his philosophical game might be still be evolving. So God is in heaven and he builds a beautiful Gypsy cab...mint condition and all. Adam sees it and says "wow I want that." God smiles because Adam has a perfect world, a perfect destiny, a beautiful wife... "Well Adam if you were to take these car keys I could not give them to you under false pretenses. One cannot enjoy a car like this with no possibility of ending up like James Dean, or Humpty Dumpty...You would roll around going five miles an hour and frankly that shit would not look good! Not in my kingdom!

Adam thinks and says "I want it." God says "Adam if I give you these keys I can't protect you! your on your own you know what that means? If you crash and break, you die, if you make it around the curve at 50 mph your blood pressure will rise and you will taste life like you have never tasted it!" Adam says...you guessed it. God has a tear in his eye, he hands Adam the keys hands shaking, he hugs his man close to his busom clinging to him like most fathers have wanted to do just to feel for a moment like they can prevent all harm to their sons.

Adam chooses free will, in a universe where it is possible along with predestination. Somewhere a sadistic contract killer tells his religious mark "I will give you 5 minutes to pray to your god to strike me down,you want ten minutes?" The killer laughs, aint happened yet...Adam's choice is with us, and while it does not mean that God is not with us? The logos of God is part of God, and the Logos has spoken...Adam chooses to create and evolve his part of reality in a manner where everything is possible and the Universe absorbs those possibilities within its evolution.

This means Yellow Stone, global warming, etc. As far as these being a benefit or not? who are we too judge Rose? That sadistic killer described above? he may come back as a cute baby boy with terminal cancer...vis a vis the universe has indeed karmically incorporated him.

hope this helps.

 

Sorry to hear that Rose.

 

Two different worlds. I know which one I would rather hang out in lol. I wouldn't even normally touch anything political with a ten foot pole but this is serious.

 

Mensa airport lol.

 

So how did the Clintons rise to fame? Its an interesting story actually. If you look at this country you will see a grid of supply lines. You have the oceans, the ports which are covered pretty damn well. One could pay to play but, it gets pretty complex and people will have a great idea about your resources. Then there are the roads, most of which are major, guarded by small town police departments looking for a handout... Not an ideal situation to say the least.

1920's Louisiana, a strange crazy man is making the rounds, making lots of noise...But he has his supporters, some of whom will tell you after Jesus, pray for the Kingfish, Huey P Long. Huey claims he wants to build roads and bring Louisiana into the twentieth century. From the Bayou outwards, roads are built eventually culminating in the interstate system going in all directions. Many outlying areas benefit from these roads. Perhaps one of the most ass backwards of these places was Arkansas. A true backwater! These backwaters are part of a transformation, places like Washington Louisiana that were a stop off on the Mississippi are now eclipsed by the roads, and many of these places are forgotten.

Alas, where Angels fear to tread Devils freely mingle. The Bayous become a place where a smattering of Cajun families live off the land, the kids often leave school early, they must be home to help skin a gator for cookin'...these Cajuns are laughed at, called "coon asses" for speaking French. Enter a nice day circa the year 2000 or so, David is with the family on a drive to Baton Rouge Louisiana from Opelousas when the car has a problem. Tow truck driver arrives with what looks like a small hand grenade launcher in the back of his truck, bullet holes seem to dot the exterior of the vehicle. David, having grown up in New York understands the concept of preparing for shit... Many of his Puerto Rican friends when visiting a white girl friend would carry a baseball bat with nails sticking out of it...they didn't want to get jumped by the Irish boys after all...But what exactly is the threat in the Bayou? I can't imagine.

Tow truck driver looks at us and says, "Ista good thang yal didn't walk on into town, you know where ya at? This here Whiskey Bay!" Well shit why didn't he say so... what is Whiskey bay again? It turns out the Bayous are a place where contraband is run, where ranger stations are all shot out shells that cannot be manned and where gun battles happen all hours of the night. This driver, to even go about his business has to engage motor boats taking shots at him. If anyone happens to be around they risk their life. The ranger stations have not been manned for years, as the law was chased out of the Bayous long ago... These Bayous that extend a good 60-70 miles from Baton Rouge up through Lafayette. And this does not include the Bayou communities up North from Port Barrie to Washington Louisiana, the whole damn Gulf is made up of these waterways and they are uninhabitable unless you grew up around them...there are no Google maps to navigate folks.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Enter the kingdom of Arkanastan. Just a backwater state (Arkansas) a stone throw from the Bayou, another throw from the regulated part of the Gulf near Houston (the Bayou city), and with a unique central location to most of the greater Eastern Seaboard via back, Secondary, tertiary Roads...and the Interstate. Geography can be destiny. Human trafficking, running drugs, weapons, is not easily accomplished in the ports of a first world nation. Yet mention Whiskey Bay, or the part of the Bayou that stretches from Baton Rouge...a bit towards New Orleans, and all the way to Lafayette/Washington Louisiana and people are oblivious. These waterways are not only impossible to cover, but are dangerous beyond comprehension.

The Clintons and the evil factions which make up their enterprise know this. Bill Clinton and family was able to launder and traffic because of Arkansas location to the Bayous. This is how his influence grew. This is how many victims of human trafficking made their way to the capital, this is how so many more drugs come into the country, than the interstate 95 corridor where local police departments patrol looking for fines and arrests.

This location allowed Clinton to make it rain for so many, and to bring in massive amounts of illegal contraband into Arkansas, to be distributed nationwide. One needs to step back and think like Michael Trimm, a big picture thinker to understand this. The media will give the illusion of glamor...Spanish gangs in Columbia running Coca, with beautiful wet dream chicas in Miami dancing to the beat! While the truth is the real shit is on speed boats running through the water ways of the Bayou, up a few choice roads in Louisiana and Arkansas where the Sheriffs are paid real well. The proof of this is in what the tow truck driver told me...everything in that area is full of bullet holes, any federal presence is overrun by force. narco-Terrorism at its most pronounced.

The S&L quasi-banks and other such institutions created by Clinton's law firm were all money laundering institutions folks! before that it was REal Estate. So lets keep this in mind when being mislead by the media who want to create numerous red herrings. Trimm was asked to stop because when one figures it out, it all makes sense.