Sociopaths / Psychopaths

Discussion in 'Φ v.2 Who is a SOCIOPATH?' started by Chicodoodoo, Dec 30, 2015.

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  1. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    There is nothing people of empathy cannot accomplish when they are able to function freely. Humanity may be primarily Followers, but that is not the problem. The problem is that the worst among us, the Sociopaths, lead us. If we can disqualify the Sociopaths, and engage the Independents, everything changes. And it changes for the better.

    Imagine if everyone started to ask why we have to elect a sociopath to be our leader. The next president of the United States will be a sociopath. It has been that way my entire life. Is that what the world needs?

    What sociopaths fear the most is being widely exposed as sociopaths. Without their disguise of normality, they can no longer fool us. They lose their power and control over us. We need to make it happen.



    Labyrinth of the Psychopath 20 - Psychopaths and their Fears
     
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  2. Gemma

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    Such a template is a challenging problem because all we have ever known is the hierarchy of leadership inequality. How do we design such a template when we have been brainwashed and programmed to think in terms of inequality (hierarchy / leaders)?

    Precisely, from past experience and indoctrination we default to leadership being hierarchical inequality and control - so redefining and reprogramming "memes", if you like, is absolutely necessary, as essentially leadership doesn't have to default to inequality when it is merit based.

    My demonstrated domestic skill set for craft/sewing is crap so if I am ever faced with having to deal with one of those jobs I seek out a leader in my family/friends to inform, guide and supervise my project. My demonstrated domestic skill set in the kitchen is very good so I am always called on for leadership over dinner/social events - in this way merit based leadership is very successful but more importantly becomes "all inclusive" to the group. A very simple analogy for sure, but I hope the bigger picture is also in there somewhere.

    This is where it would be useful to study the societal organizations of other advanced life forms, meaning extraterrestrial space-faring species that have made it past the pitfall of self-annihilation. This may be partly why the ruling sociopaths keep knowledge of ETs from the masses……….. If only we could study a dozen or two different ET societies to learn from their mistakes and successes!

    We already have the knowledge. We demonstrate it daily even as we are coerced not to. The fact that we are convinced we don't have the wisdom and intelligence to create far more advanced ethical civilizations than we have today is psychopathic propaganda, control and arrogance. One only has to look at the incredibly sophisticated, innovative inventions (ideologically and materially) that get blocked by the wall of psychopathic control to know we are far smarter than we give ourselves credit for - we just have to get past the fear and inferiority toward the "scary monsters" sitting atop their man-made hierarchical pyramids; which is why I subscribe to your cause Chico for revealing the "scary monsters arsenal" because when we are no longer ignorant toward their deception, their "scary veil" is laughable simply by the sheer dominance of numbers from the transparent empathic crowd.

    Hierarchical leadership pyramids: there's an innovative challenge right there and no doubt someone, somewhere has already thought of an alternative to the pyramid shape - from memory there are a few alternatives out there.

    Sorry this is written in haste and I must away as I'm already neglecting my local responsibilities, but perhaps my tone will begin to reveal how I am really, really excited to have "seen" this game-changer that you constantly harp on about Chico. It quite literally has been fundamental in slotting in an elusive piece of my diverse mosaic of experience, research and exploration and provided a powerful exploitable "chink in the armour" so to speak; it is David's pebble for Goliath!

    Gemma :)
     
  3. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Such a template is a challenging problem because all we have ever known is the hierarchy of leadership inequality. How do we design such a template when we have been brainwashed and programmed to think in terms of inequality (hierarchy / leaders)?

    This is where it would be useful to study the societal organizations of other advanced life forms, meaning extraterrestrial space-faring species that have made it past the pitfall of self-annihilation. This may be partly why the ruling sociopaths keep knowledge of ETs from the masses.

    The only glimmer of information about ET societal organization that I have encountered that seemed genuine came from Alex Collier and Charles Hall. Between the two, Alex had far more experience with the ET race he interacted with, and thus had the most applicable information regarding the structure of their society. If only we could study a dozen or two different ET societies to learn from their mistakes and successes!

    For the time being, we have to go it alone and forge our own path, with the ruling sociopaths opposing us every step of the way. That seems like the worst possible of all worlds. No wonder many people see no hope. But I do see hope. One of the primary rules of war is "Know your enemy." The ruling sociopaths have always employed intrigue, distraction, deception, and secrecy to keep us down. But with the spread of knowledge of what sociopaths are and how they behave, we are rising up. We are starting to know our enemy. We are starting to become dangerous to the ruling sociopaths.

    The ruling sociopaths will tell you "Knowledge is power." Our knowledge of sociopaths is growing. The truth really can set us free. Sociopaths will do anything to keep the truth from us. But I think that's a fool's errand. They are bound to fail.
     
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  4. Gemma

    Gemma Member

    Hi Rose, no I haven't and certainly don't wish for any misunderstanding to be drawn that I have "connections", as I don't. However, not to dampen any enthusiasm, for many years now I have been in research, study, and observation mode which has afforded me an understanding of how many artists are now able to find each other and "come together" via our tremendous open-sourcing tool - the internet - in order to bring to fruition great projects; it is far easier today to materialize ideas, (in many arenas), than it was 30 years ago. In other words the power available to common citizens today is quite extraordinary, we just have to keep making the paradigm shift of "awareness, encouragement, and confidence" in being able to recognize the new opportunities so we can replace our traditional apathy that has evolved from the overwhelming obstacle of [designed] isolation.

    An Action Plan is the first step and probably the biggest hurdle as it takes commitment. I hope to formulate a draft in my school break and present it here for discussion. If members become interested and can support with ideas and resource contributions, I am confident, (with Chico's resources to date and fluent mental application), we can generate an intelligent proposal - no different in many ways to following guidelines for fund/resource grant applications. Sourcing relevant entities to pitch to, (filmmakers, philanthropists, scientists, journalists, academics, etc, etc), is easy - putting the package together is what will demand our focussed attention.

    For example, just off the top of my head, many here may be aware of activists Peter Joseph, Abby Martin, Jon Rappoport, to name an exceedingly small number that have achieved "topic" global awareness campaigns with considerable success. Once we successfully create an intelligent, comprehensive yet succinct, promotional presentation that not only highlights the major obstacle in the pathway of activists but provides innovative ideas, (e.g. simulations), on how to bring forth resolution, I have no doubt it will "garner their attention". This will inspire deeper investigation and powerful collaboration toward formulating a global awareness campaign on the "hidden in plain sight" obstacle we are all facing.

    With the tools available to us today this is very doable.

    A good method of discovery is to imagine certain members of a system removed and then see how what is left will behave: for example where would we be if iron were absent from the world: this is an old example. [Georg C. Lichtenberg]

    Cheers
    Gemma
     
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  5. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    inventive personas - carefully created facade to work targets without a real persona in it.
    mysterious pasts that don't make any sense
     
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  6. Rose

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    ohh, Grandiosity...:)
    Deception, repeating something someone else wrote, pontificating in a self righteous manner.
     
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  7. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    I found that flattery and sycophantic behavior episode of Sherdan's enlightening...
    Exposing these devious types sometimes feels like a full time job.
     
  8. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    What filmmakers are you referring to, Gemma? Have you done this before.? Would you post some projects you were involved with?
    Cheers
     
  9. Gemma

    Gemma Member

    Hello everyone, I am reduced to read only participation at the moment but very appreciative of the interesting and helpful dialogues. Great to see reshaping of threads also.

    Very busy with work commitments at the moment but am looking forward to actively engaging again in a couple of weeks when we have a school break.

    I have been pondering potential action plans to help assist with global exposure re our inadequate global leadership that is dominated by low-empathic individuals/groups. For example how to create an informative simulation scenario of a community that chooses to pioneer a social experiment that uses brain scanning of all its individuals as a reference point and guide for recognizing strengths and weaknesses of empathic psychological markers coupled to an individual's learned/experiential skills sets. A (designed) transparent communication system then provides the opportunity for democratic consensus to determine placement of individuals within their community taking into full consideration their sovereign preferences, skill sets, behavioural meritocracy, and applications.

    The simulation would obviously have to cover all angles, pro's and con's, including questions re the theory along with failures and successes of suggested designs for systems change; what I have found encouraging is Chico's ability to respond to common questions that arise over this controversial issue that, in my observation, places the psychopath reasoning for why we have inadequate leadership on unshakeable ground - and not only because one man is a well versed and staunch activist in the theory, but because the theory itself is unmistakably clear for why common empathic psychology is completely deficient in being able to influence psychopaths to reason ethically.

    Of course film is one of the greatest mediums for the above potential so my thought process is leaning toward preparing proposals that can be pitched to numerous filmmakers, (known and unknown), to be inspired to script and produce an informative film; followed by social media viral power assisting with the seed idea spreading re a prototype template of how a civilization can shift from leadership inequality indoctrination toward equality. (After all the classic "Three-Act Structure" for storytelling, (Setup, Confrontation, Resolution), is definitely applicable.

    Sorry this is probably coming across quite vague as I haven't had time to flesh it out, but I hope the gist is there.

    Cheers.
     
  10. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    I'm going to watch these videos again with an eye towards observing Sheridan himself. His information is so good that I wonder if he was deliberately smeared by paid trolls on the net to discredit his person by painting him as a sociopath. That is, after all, a typical ploy used by sociopaths -- accusing their opponents of their own malfeasance.
     
  11. Rose

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    I was all set to read Without Conscience and realized the pdf is only a sample. hmm I should have known.
    Anyway, I happened upon this Youtube playlist by Thomas Sheridan re Puzzling People Click image for Link:
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  12. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Are they describing Stephen (a.k.a. Houdini, Atticus, Charles)? Of course, they could also be describing Bill Ryan, or Bill Clinton, or Henry Kissinger, or even Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Obama). Sociopaths are common enough that it is likely you have one in your life right now and probably don't even know it. I have a number of them in my life that I know of, and maybe even one or more that I don't know of. They're here, and they always have been. We just didn't know enough about them to realize it.
     
  13. Chicodoodoo

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    Yes, it would depend on what his motives were, and motives equal intent. Tactics only matter because of the intent that drives them. Deceptive tactics are used when the intent is to deceive. Remember, skilled sociopaths often lie with the truth. They just don't give you all the truth you need to understand the deception. But the intent is to deceive. The same tactics can be used to convince someone of something honestly, i.e. you give them the truth as you believe it to be, with no intent to withhold anything. Both the deceiver and the non-deceiver can be using the very same tactics. Only the intent is different. And the underlying intent is usually invisible.
     
  14. Rose

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    It would depend upon what tactics he may have used to convince gullible people of his beliefs and what his motives were. Power? Conrol? Suicide companions?Fame after death?
     
  15. Chicodoodoo

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    And where did those "memories" come from? The lying mainstream media, perhaps?

    They also told us Hitler had 6 million Jews gassed to death in order to convince us he had no conscience and was thus a psychopath and a madman. It turns out he didn't have any Jews gassed to death. So now is he still a psychopath and madman? Can we make that determination based on the twisted history they give us? And why would they give us that twisted story in the first place? Why fool us? Wouldn't people who deceive and manipulate us like that be sociopaths? And who exactly are those sociopaths?

    Hitler did not deceive and manipulate his people, the Germans. Between 1933 and 1939, he delivered enormous benefits to them, completely reversing Germany's poverty imposed by the Allies after World War I. For his good deeds, Hitler and his nation were targeted for extermination by those same Allies and their sociopath leaders -- Stalin, Churchill, and Roosevelt. Hitler and Germany were maneuvered into conflict by the sociopaths and then blamed for that conflict. Isn't that exactly the kind of thing sociopaths do?

    I don't know. I'd have to do a lot of research to uncover what the man was really like. I've already read claims that the CIA was involved in that situation, and if that is true, the likelihood that we have the real story is practically nil.

    Suppose Applewhite was convinced, for whatever reason, that he had the truth. If he really believed his truth and wanted to share it with others, out of empathy for their well-being, would that be deceiving and manipulating others? In other words, was his intent that of a sociopath? He and his followers, who were apparently all in agreement, were willing to voluntarily end their lives for a perceived "greater reward". How many people worship Jesus for doing something similar? Are there real prophets, or are all prophets sociopaths or mentally deranged people?
     
  16. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    This Hevavens Gate video will make a good study for me, then. I posted the vid for future reference and have not watched it yet. I made my assumption regarding Applewhite based solely upon my basic memories of the situation. Anyone who is charlatan and liar enough to convince a group of people to commit suicide due to his own contrived beliefs seems to have no conscience to me. What I recall of his message was as concocted by insanity as most of our recent alt-media promoted Guru's. What about the Jim Jones incident? Do you believe he was a sociopath?
     
  17. Chicodoodoo

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    I'm curious what you would hold up as evidence that Marshall Applewhite was a classic sociopath. I don't know much about him, but I didn't see signs of a "classic sociopath" in that video. For example, where is the hypocrisy? He didn't ask anyone to do anything he wouldn't do, from what I can see. He died along with everybody else, for the same reasons as everybody else. Those that left the group didn't do it because of dissatisfaction with the leader, but more because they wanted a life change, which was the same reason they joined the group, and the same reason 39 committed suicide.

    Yet many are quick to label someone who does something we don't understand as a sociopath, without actually looking for the identifying evidence of sociopathy. Here's another example:

    I've never seen "brilliant orator" or "invoking spirituality to justify actions" on the list of classic sociopathic characteristics. Hitler was not a congenital liar, nor did he lack compassion, nor was he a dominant or aggressive personality in private. We have been told (or "sold") that he was, but if you check with the people who worked and lived with him, they disagree.

    My point is that when evaluating someone for sociopathy, you cannot jump to conclusions, and you must accumulate all the evidence, both pro and con! I didn't just decide Zook was a sociopath because he disagreed with me about something, as Zook likes to claim. I had to observe him for well over a year, and the realization was gradual and indeed unwelcome. Likewise, I didn't just decide Hitler was a non-sociopath because I had a secret wish to be ridiculed and slandered. I spent a good deal of time searching for first-hand, reliable evidence, which is no easy task for the 20th century's most falsely maligned and discredited human being. The reason Hitler's character was smeared into a monstrosity also plays a critical role in understanding how and why we, the public, were fooled.

    This is a very complex world we live in, and very deceptive. It is "beyond belief" deceptive. I do not know the psychology of Applewhite, but I do know our media is the primary tool for fooling us, and the Applwhite story is being delivered to us by that very same media and by people shaped by that media. Extreme caution (in forming any belief) is advised.
     
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  18. Rose

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    I need to put this one here, too, so I remember to watch it.
    I noticed this vid the same night and didn't have time.
    I remember this episode in 1997 well.
    I was traveling around Texas in my RV,
    The Hale Bopp comet was in the sky for what seemed like a long time.
    Couldn't help thinking about this bizarre incident.
    Talk about a classic sociopathic charlatan!!!

     
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  19. Rose

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    I keep saying I am going to read all the books mentioned in this thread, and I need to actually do it.
    I am leaving that PDF above to remind me. I must read it.
    I remember I found Hare's checklist illuminating earlier here.

    I happened to see both of those videos you posted just the other night, Chico.
    I also enjoyed this young couple with their "Game Over" program speaking about sociopathic relationships.
    Admittedly a lighter note, but has some solid recommendations for spotting sociopaths.

     
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  21. Rose

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    Looking forward to Zook's Podcasts :)
     
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  22. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    My "favorite" sociopath, UncleZook, has come back to my forum to post a series of lectures on sociopathy so that we might all be properly educated on the subject. The distinguished authority giving these lectures is none other than UncleZook. You have to love the irony of the matter -- a sociopath teaching us what he wants us to know about sociopaths. What do you think the odds are that he is doing it for his own self-interest? It's sort of like the perpetrators of 9/11 setting up an investigative commission that they run to explain the event for us. Will they give us the real story, or just the one they want us to believe? Yes, sociopaths actually do these kinds of things, every chance they get. It's all part of the deception and manipulation they employ to influence us.

    So, if you really want to study sociopathy, what could be more educational than a sociopath lecturing us on sociopaths?

    Your next stop -- the Twilight Zone.
     
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  23. Chicodoodoo

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    It's unfortunate that the name "gaslighting" is assigned to what is just typical deception and manipulation in the pursuit of power and control over others. It's what sociopaths do naturally, and yet when I hear the term "gaslighting", I can never remember what it means. I suggest this is deliberate obfuscation to keep the public in the dark concerning sociopathy. It's similar to how sociopaths have steadily shifted the name of their own disease from "moral insanity", to psychopathy, to sociopathy, and now to Antisocial Personality Disorder. Yes, they're just antisocial now, whereas they were morally insane 150 years ago. Which term do you think best describes Bill or Hillary Clinton?
     
  24. Rose

    Rose InPHInet Rose Φ Administrator

    For any who may benefit from this tip~ I have recently discovered a workaround for close quarters sociopathic episodes: A known live mic in the room. This method has proven as amazingly effective as garlic, crosses and mirrors around a vampire. Sociopaths seem to cower and turn mute when their secrecy is taken away from them. They can't claim it didn't happen the next day.
     
  25. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker


    What is a Psychopath?


    @6:22 "But the concept of psychopathy is out there, there are books written about it... It's worth knowing about."

    No, it is critical to know about. Our leaders are almost all sociopaths! Our national policy is set by sociopaths! Our laws are written by sociopaths! Our major institutions are run by sociopaths! How could it be anything less than "drop dead" critical! It should be taught in all of our schools with as much emphasis as reading and writing, but it won't be, because sociopaths control the educational system, and they don't want us to know about them.



    A Psychopath Describes His Behaviour


    @10:10 You can see how everything is a cold exchange of "favors" to a sociopath.

    Zook does this often in the forums. He will look for opportunities to support another poster, butter him up, flatter him, and feign admiration for that poster's opinion, all for the purposes of expecting the same kind of "support" in times of difficulty. It is the deliberate process of forming fake alliances and disingenuous networks for selfish benefit. These alliances and networks will dissolve instantly if the sociopath sees a clear selfish benefit for doing so. Sam can surely vouch for this in his dealings with the "story-teller". Heck, Bill Ryan is a master at this using his Avalon forum. Christine and many others can surely vouch for this, including me!
     
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  26. Chicodoodoo

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    I should also note that every emotion can be both beneficial and damaging to a multitude of people, depending on the person. In other words, the effects of our emotions can be "all over the map" affecting a large population. So how do we evaluate the management of our emotions? Judgment. And good judgment is not easily developed or easily recognized. In judging, there are many variables to be weighed, and it is impossible to properly identify and weigh each one. So judgment is subjective, difficult to justify, fallible, and imperfect. So does that mean we should not judge? No. The ability to judge is our greatest gift. Exercising our judgment can be our greatest strength, but it is not without risk and peril.

    So in managing our emotions, and recognizing that they can be beneficial AND damaging depending on so many things, how do we decide what to do? As Neo points out in The Matrix, "The problem is choice."

    I like to let Spock from Star Trek answer Neo. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

    You will note that the problem with sociopaths is that they believe their needs outweigh the needs of the non-sociopaths. To sociopaths, "The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many."

    And therein lies the problem.
     
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  27. Chicodoodoo

    Chicodoodoo Truth-seeker

    Sam makes a good point, that I can cut like a surgeon's knife, and it can hurt. There is an important lesson here that I will try to illuminate.

    Compassion is something we feel. It is an emotion, and we cannot turn off our emotions. Likewise, sociopaths cannot turn on their missing emotions, like empathy or compassion. Note that compassion is derived from empathy. You will not have compassion if you do not have empathy. Most of the things lacking in sociopaths, their "defects", are derived from this lack of empathy -- lack of compassion, lack of shame, lack of responsibility, lack of honesty, lack of humility, lack of connection, lack of self-moderation, etc.

    Just as sociopaths are a permanent part of humanity and should be properly managed, so also are emotions a permanent part of each human being and also should be managed. We are each responsible for managing our own emotions. It is critical to realize that every emotion can be beneficial or damaging, to ourselves and/or others, depending on the situation. For example, feeling empathy is very beneficial for a normal person dealing with other normal people, but a normal person acting on feelings of empathy when dealing with a sociopath is going to get eaten alive! A sociopath will use your empathy against you with amazing skill. So even though a normal person cannot stop himself from feeling empathy, even when dealing with a sociopath, he must properly manage that feeling to avoid being damaged. To do that requires judgment! He must use his judgment to reason like this: "I feel empathy for this person, but I recognize (using good judgment) that empathy is not an appropriate response in this particular instance, as it will be used against me. Therefore, I must not allow my empathy to direct my behavior when dealing with this particular person."

    Note that the results of using good judgment can and will be attacked by both the sociopath and by other empathetic observers. They will criticize you by noting that you are not being compassionate! In the case of the sociopath, this is a manipulation (using your empathy against you) to regain power and control over you. In the case of empathetic observers, this is a failure to realize (failure to use good judgment) why you have consciously chosen not to be guided by your own empathy in this particular case. You will be criticized from all parties for your correct behavior!

    You can hopefully see what a complex and insidious predicament we are all involved in when it comes to the dynamic that occurs between sociopaths (lacking empathy) and non-sociopaths (having empathy). That is the lesson.
     
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  28. Chicodoodoo

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    Sam Hunter brought the video below to my attention. It starts off with an ABC news report, which is then followed by the full interview ABC conducted with Del Bigtree, of which only five seconds made it into the ABC news report.



    VAXXED: the ABC News interview that Big Pharma didn't want you to see


    Del Bigtree seems completely legitimate and spot-on. The manner in which the interview turns into an ABC news report jives perfectly with the sociopathic model it exists in, a model of deception and manipulation. Of course the CDC is lying and cheating! It's what sociopaths do, and corporations run by sociopaths also do that, in spades.

    This is exactly what happens when truth-seekers uncover the deception being used against the public. The sociopaths and their leviathan system fight back and essentially bury the opposition. It happens over and over again, even though we mostly don't get to see it. The mainstream media only shows us the side of the story the ruling sociopaths want us to see. We do not get "fair and balanced" reporting, even though the media tells us we do. The task of managing sociopaths becomes nearly impossible to implement because sociopaths run nearly everything in our society!
     
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  29. Chicodoodoo

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    This is often the case, but be aware that the "better" the sociopath, the less likely it is that they will make this mistake. Note that non-sociopaths do the same thing, often attributing empathetic motives to the actions of sociopaths when empathy had nothing to do with it.

    This is an excellent observation, however. Just remember that there are exceptions. This too can be mapped to a bell curve. The general rule applies to those who fall near the middle of the curve, whereas at the two extremes, different dynamics are occurring.
     
  30. Rose

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    Visions vividly came to my rememberence last night regarding attempting to maintain working relationships with sociopaths.

    This is the main problem: They do not understand or have a clue why you do things or that you do not have an ulterior motive for everything! They just see an action and consider everyone would take that action for the reason they would take that action, which is sociopathic. They think they know you better than you do yourself and they are reading you correctly, but it is only themselves they are reading. They can't really see anyone other than themselves. And, if you ever speak of a problem to alert them you may not be functioning at your top game, they become annoyed because, since they they genuinely feel themselves so superior, they hear this as a request for them to solve your problem for you, rather than a request for the space you need to work it out. But, if they need something you are unable to provide, they always feel you are not doing so for an ulterior motive which would be the case if the roles were reversed.